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tom_boy
#791 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2020 8:19:57 AM
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tony stark wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
quicksand wrote:
You are only seeing Mpesa as a funnel in and out for money.

You are not seeing the strategic, marketing, and operations juggernaut that is Safaricom.

Saf will launch a blitz that will say, We are Safaricom, we just made 60 billion. Invest with us .

Nothing more really needs to be said...they will be up against a guy in a suit from Fancyname Asset Managers with a brochure with colourful graphs and tables full of figures.

No contest.

They (Safaricom) will hoover up sizeable chunks of money....and some of that money will leave existing funds to join this new one.

People have eyes but they don't see.

Kaa hapo tu ukifikiria this industry will be the same as it was.


My sentiments, precisely.

Which brings us back to the question most pertinent to THIS thread:

Should Cytonn (whichever arm) be worried?


I don't think so.
Other than marketing to people who don't invest safaricom has so many disadvantages.
1. Paying brokerage fees
2. Lack of financial investment strategies
3. Add their marketing blitz and that's an added cost reducing their margins and I am not sure this will yield high quality clients.
4. There is no clear value add in using safaricom over using another investment firm unless you are buying a communication solution.

This idea of Safaricom being infallible is totally false. Here is a short list of failed projects
Safaricom call a doc- fail
Safaricoms little cabs - another failure
Safaricoms blaze another stupid and failing idea
Do you remember Vuma online for mathrees.

Waaah. Safaricom has so many jokers they can lose so much money and still make a profit. This will probably be another failed project.



The way I see it, a real game changer for Safaricom would be if they get a banking license. That way they get to keep and recirculate all deposits at a handsome profit. However, I doubt NCBA and kamwana would allow it....
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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wukan
#792 Posted : Monday, May 11, 2020 1:13:45 PM
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rwitre wrote:


Quarterly Statistical Bulletin market analysis for the period covering the third and fourth quarters of 2019, done by CMA:




Top 5 are pulling double digit growths. Cytonn and Zimele offering high rates and ease of access, Sanlam and Britam making heavy investments in digital products to target young market.
Meanwhile the old timers ICEA, Stanlib, Madison are barely making change. Old Mutual, Equity and Coop saw reductions.

Tide is changing. While the heavyweights still control a huge portion of the market, if they keep getting comfortable they will continue losing marketshare.

Full Report: The CMA Quarterly Capital Markets Statistical Bulletin


Cytonn has done analysis for the full year 2019. It is still an old boys network. 82% of the market

https://cytonnreport.com.../fy2019-utf-performance

Equity tried their hand and it's been a dismal performance.
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paulkimani
#793 Posted : Sunday, June 07, 2020 9:47:34 AM
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Angelica _ann
#794 Posted : Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:02:21 AM
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paulkimani wrote:
https://twitter.com/pkwazua/status/1268061618056966145?s=21




Why drag wazua into this your fight with Cytonn?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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rwitre
#795 Posted : Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:24:12 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:

paulkimani wrote:
https://twitter.com/pkwazua/status/1268061618056966145?s=21




Why drag wazua into this your fight with Cytonn?


Clicked on the link out of curiosity. Comments on the thread are from two accounts with less than 5 followers. (One has zero)

No problem with new accounts. But these are new accounts whose content is majorly on bashing Cytonn. Unsurprisingly, PK's account doesn't talk about anything else.

Forgive us if we conclude that yours is a personal vendetta against the company, not an objective take on their activities.
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kaka2za
#796 Posted : Sunday, June 07, 2020 1:25:33 PM
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rwitre wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:

paulkimani wrote:
https://twitter.com/pkwazua/status/1268061618056966145?s=21




Why drag wazua into this your fight with Cytonn?


Clicked on the link out of curiosity. Comments on the thread are from two accounts with less than 5 followers. (One has zero)

No problem with new accounts. But these are new accounts whose content is majorly on bashing Cytonn. Unsurprisingly, PK's account doesn't talk about anything else.

Forgive us if we conclude that yours is a personal vendetta against the company, not an objective take on their activities.


This reminds of a movie called Obsessed featuring Idris Elba and Beyonce.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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paulkimani
#797 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:50:01 AM
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Good morning and welcome to another episode of “peter kimani only comments on Cytonn”!

Welcome! Hope you all are keeping safe

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Have a blessed day to friends and foe alike!
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paulkimani
#798 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:55:08 AM
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KulaRaha
#799 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:11:17 AM
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Lots of whispers in the market about a high level shake up of personnel in Cytonn.....are the fellows planning on running with the money?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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muganda
#800 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:38:12 AM
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There's a deeva who really seems to have an axe to grind with Cytonn.
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