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Fundaah
#71 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 12:40:53 PM
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[quote=masukuma 'Abortion' to 'Termination of pregnancy' [/quote]
....
may mean the same to some people....meaning we could go in circles forever....

β€˜It takes sixty-five thousand errors before you are qualified to make a rocket.’

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Lets make the first error Now...if we have to ...
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masukuma
#72 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 1:04:06 PM
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@fundaah, weren't you the one trying to 'educate' me that miscarriages are abortions? how does termination have different meanings unless you are authoring your own dictionary.
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Fundaah
#73 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 1:25:37 PM
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masukuma wrote:
my answer to that is that i would have agreed to the recommendation by Martha Karua made in parliament change the term 'Abortion' to 'Termination of pregnancy' but since our cowardly MPigs refused to change anything. we are where we are.



Why would you agree to term 'Termination of pregnancy' and not 'Abortion' if they are one and same?....
the idea is we need to stop being petty ....get the constitution which is 80% good ...ammend anything that is bad thereafter ....

An 80% grade is a credit under all measures....No constitution can be perfect...

otherwise well never get a new constitution in our generation....with this pettiness....
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willin2learn
#74 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 1:40:52 PM
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@pound. And now this Sultan related Kadhi courts which was meant for the coastal strip has spread inwards...case of slow cancer.
masukuma
#75 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 2:15:05 PM
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@Fundaah, 'Termination of pregnancy' is part of 'Abortion'. From your explanation Miscarriages are also Part of 'Abortion'.
on the Kadhi's courts....has anyone seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
in this constitution you are saying is 80% good, any 8 year old found within our borders without traceable parents will be a kenyan citizen.
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Fundaah
#76 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 2:19:41 PM
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[quote= masukuma you are saying is 80% good, any 8 year old found within our borders without traceable parents .[/quote].....
what should happen to such ...in your good opinion..
a)Hanged or
b)burried alive ...
c)deported to hell?
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masukuma
#77 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 2:55:05 PM
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@fundaah, do what a 10 or 12 year old should be done ... sent back to somalia if he is a somali.
i recommend that the age be reduced to 5 years or less. at least the kid would not be able to lie...as much.
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poundfoolish
#78 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 3:25:20 PM
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Masukuma
We do not have Kadhi courts in Tangayika coz Zanzibar is Semi Autonomous.. read their(Zanzibar) constitution and you shall find traces of Kadhis courts in there...

@ Willin2learn... Somebody pasted the existing constitution clause with Kadhis courts on this discussion.

food for thought

Historically, Kadhis Courts existed in the East Coast of Africa long before colonization. In Kenya, they existed in the Coast, which at the time of colonization, was under the Sultan of Zanzibar. In 1895, the Sultan gave the British power to administer the 10 mile coastal strip subject to their respecting the existing Kadhis Courts among other conditions. The British did so and declared a protectorate over the coast while the rest of Kenya was a colony proper. The Sultan however retained sovereignty over the 10 mile coastal strip. During the last years of the independence struggle and at the start of the Lancaster House Constitutional talks in 1961, the status and fate of the coastal strip came up for determination. The British organised separate talks for the delegates from the protectorate of the coast and those from the Kenya Colony. The British Government and Sultan of Zanzibar also appointed a Commissioner, Mr. James R. Robertson, to study the issue of the coastal strip, consult all those concerned and report to them. In his report, entitled, "The Kenya Coastal Strip ? Report by the Commissioner", he reported that opinion was divided as to whether the coastal strip should join Kenya, or be declared independent on its own, or reverted back to the Sultan of Zanzibar. He however recommended that it should be joined with Kenya subject to the Kenya Government guaranteeing to respect the existence of the Kadhis Courts among other conditions. The Prime Minister of Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of Zanzibar, Mr. Shamte on behalf of the Sultan of Zanzibar, then signed an agreement in October, 1963, in the form of an exchange of letters whereby the Sultan of Zanzibar relinquished/surrendered his claim of sovereignty over the coast to Kenya in return for mzee Kenyatta guaranteeing the continued existence of the Kadhis Courts among other guarantees. When the independence constitution was written, the Kadhis Courts were enshrined under the chapter on Judiciary.
masukuma
#79 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 3:52:41 PM
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@pound and @fundaah, no one has justified the creep that the courts are having. they were limited to 10 miles of the coast now..they are everywhere 'administratively'. coincidence? Tanganyika has a coastline too? actually we share that coastline. why did they include that or did the sultan just have control of the kenyan Coast?
next...they will do what they had proposed to do in the bomas draft. a parallel law system under the High court after that...SHARIA. it all starts with one step.
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masukuma
#80 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 3:57:49 PM
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every pot-hole was once a crack...
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