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Centum to ride over the rainbow
ProverB
#71 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:08:34 AM
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Surealligator wrote:
Failing to pay a dividend is a crime in my investing career. It is a sign that the foregone opportunity was wasted.

The value of money changes with time. A shilling given now is worth more than a shilling given a couple of months later.

In business, you pay yourself first before paying others. That is what business is alll about. A bonus is not a payment unless its like the coffee bonus. A bonus in stockarage parlance is a veiled attempt of denying shareholders their dues in the name of retained profits.

The business of business is paying the owner in the earliest opportune time.

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surealligator...though i may not agree with u..i see your point... but CENTUM MUST EXPLAIN THE BONUS!!
..becoz though they may be justified not paying dividends...reasons given did not explain bonus issue.
There is no such thing as free..Bonus issue mean capitalisation of shareholder funds...unless the bonus issue amount is equivalent to the dividend pay out forgone here.. something doesn't add up.
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Wa_ithaka
#72 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:12:53 AM
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Btw, note that 1:10 bonus share is effectively 10% dividend.
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Surealligator
#73 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:14:28 AM
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Centum will offload more than half of their shareholding at the NSE and move into real estate. They already have bought land in Runda and other prime areas in the country. To build, it will take them two yrs and another yr of selling the houses if not renting.

Centum is actually conserving cash to bank roll the projects. That is why they are talking of tripling investors' returns in 2014.

That is why I intend to come back to Centum in 2013 (Till november)

The day I realized fuel was sky rocketing and KQ was not getting the dreamliner by 2010, I ran to other shares. If the Proposed Katiba passes, land prices will come down in upcountry regions but supper expensive in urban areas as the tycoons owning huge chunks of land will sell upcountry lands cheap and gunner for tiny super expensive plots in urban areas.

Quiz time: Which is the most expensive one acre plot in Kenya today? You will get 1000 on getting it right.
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Wa_ithaka
#74 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:26:07 AM
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Scubidue - waiting till 2013 will choma you.

Eastleigh has the most expensive acre
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VituVingiSana
#75 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:56:22 AM
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@surealligator: eastleigh... Now sambaza the 1k... I hear over 120mn for one acre!
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Horton
#76 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 5:13:54 AM
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beach plot in North coast is 250M per acre
Surealligator
#77 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 9:31:20 AM
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@Horton, Wa_ithaka and Vitu mob

No. None of the above acres are the most expensive.

This business daily story confirms what I said earlier

“It makes more sense to conserve capital and reinvest in viable investment projects for a greater total return,” says Mr Mworia.

“Within this strategy period running up to 2014, we do not intend to pay out any dividend,” says Mr Mworia.

Who wants to hold a share for 4 yrs without receiving a dividend? Sell now, invest in Carbacid, sell carbacid in 2012 and invest larger cash arsenal in Centum in 2013. Am sorry if someone does not get what I mean. On the other hand, I might be wrong. So let me know what I am missing here.

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/qvjs6dz/-/index.html
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Wa_ithaka
#78 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 10:35:58 AM
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Alligator-sounds like a good strategy, but I still think that if I was to go back to 2004/5 when Equity was offering shares and it said that it won't pay dividend until 2009, I'd mortgage my house to buy the shares.
Likewise with Centum, I actually think its setting itself up to become a value-multiplier.

Lakini, its now a stock for long-term investors only...

DYOR.
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VituVingiSana
#79 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 7:09:53 PM
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@alligator - Anyway, all said & done... u make your decisions!

I have a lil' secret investment I have been following... lousy returns to date lakini my gut tells me I shall be very happy around 2014...

Of course, unless we f**k up again like we did in 2007-8...
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Wa_ithaka
#80 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 8:07:53 PM
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