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Ruto and maize
hardwood
#71 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2018 8:07:57 PM
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https://www.the-star.co....s-to-diversify_c1859148

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Deputy President William Ruto has hit out at North Rift politicians who have opposed calls to diversify to other types of farming other than maize.

“I heard some people say the other day that they are not interested in diversification because you cannot put avocados in a store or you cannot feed avocados on initiates," he said.

“People are producing for markets to export while others are thinking of how to produce to go and put in a store. That is how low some people think in our country."
mpobiz
#72 Posted : Saturday, December 01, 2018 10:09:56 AM
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I dont know why people become angry or afraid when a politician tells the truth.
Adoption and diversification is the only way.
Even in kiambu coffee bushes are being uprooted for real estate developments
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
2012
#73 Posted : Saturday, December 01, 2018 12:10:58 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
I dont know why people become angry or afraid when a politician tells the truth.
Adoption and diversification is the only way.
Even in kiambu coffee bushes are being uprooted for real estate developments


The only politician speaking the truth in this matter is Moses Kuria. Buying maize from Rift is like buying sugarcane from Western. If you can get better quality maize from Uganda and Tanzania for cheaper inclusive of transport then why pay more and oppress the consumer? At some point we need to decide who is more important between the farmer and the consumer and to me, The sustainable answer is obvious.

BBI will solve it
:)
Thitifini
#74 Posted : Saturday, December 01, 2018 3:54:42 PM
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2012 wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
I dont know why people become angry or afraid when a politician tells the truth.
Adoption and diversification is the only way.
Even in kiambu coffee bushes are being uprooted for real estate developments


The only politician speaking the truth in this matter is Moses Kuria. Buying maize from Rift is like buying sugarcane from Western. If you can get better quality maize from Uganda and Tanzania for cheaper inclusive of transport then why pay more and oppress the consumer? At some point we need to decide who is more important between the farmer and the consumer and to me, The sustainable answer is obvious.


A developing economy should be a producer lead economy.

Key question should be; why are Ugandans and Tanzanians producing at such cheaper costs and what can we do to reduce production costs while increasing producer's margins.

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Gathige
#75 Posted : Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:51:12 PM
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Thitifini wrote:
2012 wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
I dont know why people become angry or afraid when a politician tells the truth.
Adoption and diversification is the only way.
Even in kiambu coffee bushes are being uprooted for real estate developments


The only politician speaking the truth in this matter is Moses Kuria. Buying maize from Rift is like buying sugarcane from Western. If you can get better quality maize from Uganda and Tanzania for cheaper inclusive of transport then why pay more and oppress the consumer? At some point we need to decide who is more important between the farmer and the consumer and to me, The sustainable answer is obvious.


A developing economy should be a producer lead economy.

Key question should be; why are Ugandans and Tanzanians producing at such cheaper costs and what can we do to reduce production costs while increasing producer's margins.



The maize dymanics are quite complex and our politicians, for who they are, won't engage in serious analysis. In Kenya, maize is a staple food for human consumption and a major ingredient in animal feeds . A large population Farms the crop for consumption and local trade. This category is normally silent in maize politics. Another section of large scale farmers engage in production for sale to Government, which is a small buyer compared
with production. This is the noisiest category as they borrow epensively, have high input costs and cannot breakeven.

In places like UG, maize I see not the staple so they will produce it at low cost and sell it like Marenge.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
2012
#76 Posted : Saturday, December 01, 2018 7:03:38 PM
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Thitifini wrote:
2012 wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
I dont know why people become angry or afraid when a politician tells the truth.
Adoption and diversification is the only way.
Even in kiambu coffee bushes are being uprooted for real estate developments


The only politician speaking the truth in this matter is Moses Kuria. Buying maize from Rift is like buying sugarcane from Western. If you can get better quality maize from Uganda and Tanzania for cheaper inclusive of transport then why pay more and oppress the consumer? At some point we need to decide who is more important between the farmer and the consumer and to me, The sustainable answer is obvious.


A developing economy should be a producer lead economy.

Key question should be; why are Ugandans and Tanzanians producing at such cheaper costs and what can we do to reduce production costs while increasing producer's margins.


It's politics plus the maize producers feeling entitled plus greed. You could ask that again because their fertilizer is subsidized by government from 4,500/- to 1,500/- while Ugandan farmers pay the full cost including taxes (I'm meant to understand) as farming is considered to be not just a business but a profitable one at that.

Basically, (and I heard from someone and it makes a lot of sense) the 3,600/- per bag is supposed to cover the losses and loss of income from the year/s of losses due to bad weather that forced us to import Mexican maize. They believe the government is their insurance company.

BBI will solve it
:)
AlphDoti
#77 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 1:16:49 PM
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2012 wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
2012 wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
I dont know why people become angry or afraid when a politician tells the truth.
Adoption and diversification is the only way.
Even in kiambu coffee bushes are being uprooted for real estate developments

The only politician speaking the truth in this matter is Moses Kuria. Buying maize from Rift is like buying sugarcane from Western. If you can get better quality maize from Uganda and Tanzania for cheaper inclusive of transport then why pay more and oppress the consumer? At some point we need to decide who is more important between the farmer and the consumer and to me, The sustainable answer is obvious.

A developing economy should be a producer lead economy.

Key question should be; why are Ugandans and Tanzanians producing at such cheaper costs and what can we do to reduce production costs while increasing producer's margins.

It's politics plus the maize producers feeling entitled plus greed. You could ask that again because their fertilizer is subsidized by government from 4,500/- to 1,500/- while Ugandan farmers pay the full cost including taxes (I'm meant to understand) as farming is considered to be not just a business but a profitable one at that...

Those farmers did not get fertilizers on time. Planting season already passed and they were forced to buy from the dealers at market price.
2012
#78 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2019 11:08:26 AM
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It's that time again Dr. WSR
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BBI will solve it
:)
Queen
#79 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2019 3:04:56 PM
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2012 wrote:
It's that time again Dr. WSR
Njaa imezidi, tuletee mahindi.


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Iganamagana
#80 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:13:01 AM
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Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
This maize scandal is a non-starter. The only people you can arrest are employees of NCPB. The 'farmers' are very well connected and critical in funding 2022 elections campaigns. As Kibaki would say "wewe shida tu hapo". Remember in 2011 baba was in a similar maize scandal of 2b? His accuser then was WSR...



Have never understood why maize farmers are dictating the price at which the Govt should buy their maize at. Why can't they sell at whatever price they want to any willing buyer.

Dairy, cabbage, potatoes, tomatoes etc farmers get market prizes and they produce what they can sell or look for ways dispose the rest excess.

Maize is going the sugar way soon.


Because Moi came up with this genius way of rewarding his tribesmen. It's just not practical. How can maize be more expensive than potatoes? You can eat potatoes without accompaniment like in chips, crisps etc. but you need beans or sukuma for maize or the unga. This unga which is not even healthy after processing.



The other day there was Ndengu Glut in Kitui and Mama Rainbow was looking for market as far as in India without raising hell that Govt should buy the Ndengus at their price.

Its time the maize farmers sold their maize to whoever can buy rather than holding everybody by the balls to buy. Its the high time they moved to Avocados as advised by Murkomen.


I hope NCPB has bought enough of this Ndengu given the food shortage we are staring at. Ama Ndengu si cereal?
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