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FRM2011
#71 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:07:27 PM
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Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.
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Angelica _ann
#72 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:09:48 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.


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Jump-steady
#73 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:10:06 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

I don't see the need of having an electoral body. The courts should be running electionsSad
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limanika
#74 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:16:08 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

IEBC can still go to supreme court for interpretation of what 'verification' means
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FRM2011
#75 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:24:54 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

I don't see the need of having an electoral body. The courts should be running electionsSad


In the words of the judges, " IEBC is a corporate body. The chairman of the commision is not IEBC. All officers including the presiding officer at a polling station constitute the IEBC".

Now lets see which R.O. will be unable to add-up the results from less than 100 polling stations.
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maka
#76 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:28:41 PM
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limanika wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

IEBC can still go to supreme court for interpretation of what 'verification' means


Sigh...let them just comply.
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alma1
#77 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:28:48 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

I don't see the need of having an electoral body. The courts should be running electionsSad


In the words of the judges, " IEBC is a corporate body. The chairman of the commision is not IEBC. All officers including the presiding officer at a polling station constitute the IEBC".

Now lets see which R.O. will be unable to add-up the results from less than 100 polling stations.


I don't see how or even why IEBC was debating this issue. What they got instead was a whip from the court...They were effectively told to shut up and do their job. Their job being to count what they recieve and not send people to bomas. The chairman was told his work is a bean counter, not an arbiter. The court is the arbiter. Awache nyef nyef ahesabu tu.

The whole world over, results are tabulated at the polling station. I just don't understand why anyone would think otherwise.

So now we are creating jobs for 40kx 10 young people in polling stations.

As for the returning officer, the judgement was very clear. You are responsible for anything that goes wrong in your polling station. For an election appeal, the appeal shall fall back on the RO.

But some RO's love raira and uhuru so much they may actually decide to rig at the poll station. lol...

Why was anyone fighting this ruling? I don't understand anyone care to explain to me?

By the way, which appeal against your so called justice odinga has the gov't won?
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Angelica _ann
#78 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:33:35 PM
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RO must be compitent people, this time round you change the slips, wewe NDAAANI NDAAANI NDAAANI kabisa.
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alma1
#79 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:41:05 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
RO must be compitent people, this time round you change the slips, wewe NDAAANI NDAAANI NDAAANI kabisa.


Actually the court asked why the IEBC chairman doesn't trust his own employees to give him the correct results. I mean this was one of those rulings that shall be taught in law school for years.

It was a total bashing of the appelant. To the point where the court had to explain to the appelant that legally he's not an appelant but a person in office. Ghai!

On the same day, Raira was told not to waste the court's time thinking that the August 8th date can be changed. The ballot papers shall be printed apende asipende....Who wants to wager that this case also goes to hell where it deserves to be?

It seems that the courts have now got the balls to fight these worthless politicians who create a mess in this country.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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FRM2011
#80 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:51:07 PM
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alma1 wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=Jump-steady][quote=FRM2011]
Appeal dismissed.



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I don't see how or even why IEBC was debating this issue. What they got instead was a whip from the court...They were effectively told to shut up and do their job. Their job being to count what they recieve and not send people to bomas. The chairman was told his work is a bean counter, not an arbiter. The court is the arbiter. Awache nyef nyef ahesabu tu.

The whole world over, results are tabulated at the polling station. I just don't understand why anyone would think otherwise.

So now we are creating jobs for 40kx 10 young people in polling stations.

As for the returning officer, the judgement was very clear. You are responsible for anything that goes wrong in your polling station. For an election appeal, the appeal shall fall back on the RO.

But some RO's love raira and uhuru so much they may actually decide to rig at the poll station. lol...

Why was anyone fighting this ruling? I don't understand anyone care to explain to me?

By the way, which appeal against your so called justice odinga has the gov't won?


considering our history of impunity, this is perhaps the one judgement that will change our elections forever.

The focus is not even on the R.O. His job is so simple. Receive form 34 from each polling station signed by a presiding officer, add them up, fill in form 36 and announce the results. It is simply impossible to make a mistake. And very many people will have worked out the figures anyway.

The key guy is the Presiding officer. Typically a primary school principal or deputy. He has no incentive to rig. He knows he is a small fish. He knows he is the easiest guy to sacrifice. And all he wants is to collect his 30K from IEBC and go back to his teaching job.

A typical polling station has 700 voters. If you want to get 100,000, you have to inflate votes by 50 per station in 2,000 stations. You have to deal with over 2,000 presiding officers, their deputies, 8 clerks and the agents plus cops/NYS guys present.

The cost of rigging will be astronomical and you have tens of thousands of co-conspirators. Practically impossible.

With Chebukati, 1B will do the job between him and his ICT guys and you are home and dry.
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