So @AlphDoti, what's your conclusion on these?

And admin, stop deleting my posts on this thread. That is dictatorship. If you don't like my opinions you don't have to read them but deleting my posts is not sincere of you. You can't hide from the truth by deleting my posts. Deal with it instead of being a coward. Engage me in a debate if you feel like my posts on religion need a rebuttal but don't be a shady admin that deletes posts that don't agree with your religious bias. You are behaving like Al Qaeda. That's discrimination, why are you not deleting mukiri's posts? Wacha ufala.

STFU you Tako or Tycho or whatever your name is. Lol

Religious space my ass? Does religious space involve banning other people's opinions on said religion? That's not religious space, that's dictatorship. It's intolerance and it's not acceptable hata kama admin is religious.

Everybody is welcome on that atheist thread, all religious and non religious views, even people who have strong words and insults towards me and people of my ilk are welcome as long as it's in the form of a debate. I actually encourage religious people to post there so we can discuss our differences. Sio mambo ya ku delete people's posts. Why can't we have the same freedom here?

P.S. Obsession ni wewe na watu wenyu. Lol.

How are you Hamburglar? Mjinga or not, please accept my salaams.

If I'm not wrong, @Admin had laid out rules about this thread... check the first page. I don't know if your intention is to have this thread shut down (again) or not, but I politely request you to respect the wishes of Admin, which sits well with us religious folk.

Good day

Shhhhh baaas baaas @hambuglar

Tutaacha miungu yote basi tukujoin.

Sawa baba...?

Haya wacha fujo sasa babaaa ... Sawa?

Good boy!

Boy?????



Religion really pisses me off. I don't think there is anything I despise more than religion and stupid gods.

wazua..it's Sunday...siku ya sermons

Dear @hamburglar,

You choose to misunderstand the motive behind our actions:
– rules of posting on this thread were laid down 3 yrs ago on post #1
– said rules were arrived at by community consensus that emanated from this discussion House rules on religious discussions..

– since then a thread was defined for Sunday Christian contributions and Friday Muslim prayers, with certain rules stipulated.
– your posts have been moved to your thread Weekly debates by an Atheist



All other posts are fair game, but always with a duty to adhere to the well being of the spirit of the community.
Note we have changed the title of your running thread to avoid confusion with this one.

Wazua

wazua..it's Sunday...siku ya sermons



So. Are you trying to tell me that if somebody here gives a sermon about Abraham almost sacrificing (murdering) Isaac we should just keep quiet and shout amen and all glory to god as if it's all good and yet we all know how much of an atrocity that was?

Are you telling us that since this thread has "rules" we should all just choose to be agree no matter what is said here?

Isn't the aim of this forum to teach, advise and enlighten people through debate and discourse across the board? How come we can't debate some of these sermons here? Why the double standards? Some sermons here are misleading and they need to be corrected so that the gullible people who read these posts can have an alternative train of thought. Why are you depriving them of that option? So you can brain wash them? Well, think of me as captain save-a-hoe. Am here to defend innocent minds from wayward sermons like the story of Adam and Eve who had two sons and somehow those two sons without the help of a woman were able perpetuate humanity. That's the kind of lies that you guys want to propagate but needs to be disputed. Let's challenge blind faith.

Sorry but I won't let you lie to people with your sermons and not expect to be challenged. We are here to seek the truth and educate each other. So you guys can continue to post your sermons and for the sake of the gullible ones here, I will continue to dispute the truth from the hogwash.

You will have to ban me to stop me. Lol.

@Hamburglar really packs some heat. Hapana mincing words

Anyways, that bile can't be good for your health. I also noticed that you calmed down after you were called 'Baba..' So sema baba.. What's on your mind? I have no religious training other than a year of teaching, in a class setup, in our Church CITAM Valley Road.. The Wazuans I've met, thought I'd turn up in robes and all, but... It's why I sometimes shy away from 'deep' exchanges lest my ignorance is damaging both to myself and other Christians. Out of curiosity, do you have formal training in Aethism, or do you just speak off the bat? Voice what feels right to you at the time?

Low self esteem is the last thing I will ever suffer from. I am an upper echelon guy, way out of your league. Am not one those low self esteem scared religious guys you see in church getting swindled out of their mjengo money by the conman pastor. My self esteem would never allow me to be conned like that. Self esteem is when you are able to speak up for yourself.

Go to church and see how quiet and scared those people in there look. I actually feel sorry for most of the people I see going to church. They are so clueless. Getting lied to and saying amen like it means something, what a bunch of sorry people. Am outspoken because I don't take crap from people like pastors and fake bishops. I once called out a pastor on his bs and really kicked his ass in a debate online and a few days later he literally sent me a death threat and disconnected the phone be had used to send the message. Such a piece of shit coward. I have self respect, I don't take crap from nobody.

The pastor of the church that is above one of my businesses always goes to lunch on Sunday after service at a very expensive restaurant in one of the new malls around town. I have met him there a bunch of times and he always says hello with a wry smile on his face and offers to buy me a drink. He knows that I know what he does with people's money. You should see the people who go to his church. Some even with "virakas" on their shirt collar. It's very sad actually. If these people just had an ounce of self worth, they would not allow themselves to be used like that.

Nothing fazes me my dear. Us atheists are a confident lot. There is a big difference between confidence and narcissism. I doubt you would know the difference anyway, maybe you should pray to your imaginary god to tell you the difference and then pay tithe when he does. Lol.

It really puzzles me. How can religious people be used over and over and over and still keep going back for more every Sunday? Can somebody please explain this to me. I will never understand it. Haven't you guys seen pastor kyuna's house? Where do you think he got the money from? Are you people blind?

Actually, the reason the few pastor's that I have interacted with and had a debate with completely abhor me is because I am a threat to their livelihood. They are so scared that I may enlighten and one day educate their flock just enough to make them see the light and thus take away their means of income. Nothing is more powerful than sslf preservation. These pastor's are in business and they get threatened when somebody tries to take away from their livelihood. That's why an atheist is a pastors and by extension, wazua admin's worst enemy because he is a serious threat to their business. They fear that we might open up gullible religious people's eyes and that spells trouble for their con games. It's all about survival. They have to keep their flock ignorant to maximise their profits, this is a cruel world and only the strong survive.