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Impunity
#71 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:02:44 PM
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Location: Masada
maka wrote:
webish wrote:
I believe this is about the Greatwall Project - Sewer Line:
Was the issue eventually resolved?

GREATWALL ARTICLE


That Chinese guy is mad...If am not wrong some case is being filed against them because of Phase 3...The bugger should be deported.


Are people really occupying the greatWall gardens as at today really?
Where is that sewage coming from?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Ryko
#72 Posted : Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:24:15 AM
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looks like an industrial park coming up over there
I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
Impunity
#73 Posted : Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:54:13 PM
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Location: Masada
Ryko wrote:
looks like an industrial park coming up over there


This place will be hawt.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Magunia
#74 Posted : Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:19:42 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2017
Posts: 13
Impunity wrote:
Ryko wrote:
looks like an industrial park coming up over there


This place will be hawt.


They have informed me that I'll pay 425,510/= for fees and taxes before taking the unit (3 bedrooms, in phase 1). Are you guys charged similar especially for the 3 bedroom buyers? Just curious
Ryko
#75 Posted : Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:29:03 AM
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Magunia wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ryko wrote:
looks like an industrial park coming up over there


This place will be hawt.


They have informed me that I'll pay 425,510/= for fees and taxes before taking the unit (3 bedrooms, in phase 1). Are you guys charged similar especially for the 3 bedroom buyers? Just curious


The answer is "YES" & "NO"

Let me explain:

This is what basically happens, based on previous project, if you look at the cost break down it looks like this
i) Stamp Duty (4% of House Value by government valuation) 280,200
ii) Registration fees 500
iii) Consent to lease 1000
iii) Stamp duty on Sale Agreement 310
iv) Legal Fees (VAT inclusive) 40,000
v) Disbursements 10,000
vi) Transfer of Reversionary interest 500
Then there is another "93 K"


There is one outlier in this costs
i) Stamp Duty (4% of House Value by government valuation) 280,200


There is NO way on earth those houses can be valued at 7M, Infact the Valuation is not yet done. But why do they do that?

There are people who are eager and waiting to get in to their houses so the will pay a valuation of "7M" hence the 280K, however once the correct valuation is done you will be refunded the upper amount. Assume the valuer values the house at 4M the 4% moves to 160k, that means you will get a refund of (280k -160K= 120K)

My brother you will chase that cheque, several trips to their lawyers.. its not worth.

Then there people who are not in a hurry or (dont care) they will wait for the correct valuation, once its done that outlier will be changed to the correct value, and you will pay less by around 120K.

But you have to wait, the valuation can be done in Nov/December/Jan call their lawyers office to confirm.

I hope thats clear it:

"Yes": if your in hurry you will pay 425K to access the house. But you will be left "fighting hard" for a refund cheque

"No": If you are patient, you will pay less but be patient for several months
I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
obiero
#76 Posted : Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:50:32 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,318
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
mufasa wrote:
"13 The completion is Dec 31st but those who know erdemann will tell you work with May-June 2017 ul never go wrong."

More like May 2018 for occupation. He's already selling phase 3 @ 3million and he hasn't handed over the first 200 houses. I think he has hit a cash crunch. Buy @ 3million if you'll wait till December 2019


There are guys who bought Nyayo Embakasi (don't know which phase) at 2.7M a few years back.

Phase 1 & 2
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Magunia
#77 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 1:38:23 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 5/29/2017
Posts: 13
Ryko wrote:
Magunia wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ryko wrote:
looks like an industrial park coming up over there


This place will be hawt.


They have informed me that I'll pay 425,510/= for fees and taxes before taking the unit (3 bedrooms, in phase 1). Are you guys charged similar especially for the 3 bedroom buyers? Just curious


The answer is "YES" & "NO"

Let me explain:

This is what basically happens, based on previous project, if you look at the cost break down it looks like this
i) Stamp Duty (4% of House Value by government valuation) 280,200
ii) Registration fees 500
iii) Consent to lease 1000
iii) Stamp duty on Sale Agreement 310
iv) Legal Fees (VAT inclusive) 40,000
v) Disbursements 10,000
vi) Transfer of Reversionary interest 500
Then there is another "93 K"


There is one outlier in this costs
i) Stamp Duty (4% of House Value by government valuation) 280,200


There is NO way on earth those houses can be valued at 7M, Infact the Valuation is not yet done. But why do they do that?

There are people who are eager and waiting to get in to their houses so the will pay a valuation of "7M" hence the 280K, however once the correct valuation is done you will be refunded the upper amount. Assume the valuer values the house at 4M the 4% moves to 160k, that means you will get a refund of (280k -160K= 120K)

My brother you will chase that cheque, several trips to their lawyers.. its not worth.

Then there people who are not in a hurry or (dont care) they will wait for the correct valuation, once its done that outlier will be changed to the correct value, and you will pay less by around 120K.

But you have to wait, the valuation can be done in Nov/December/Jan call their lawyers office to confirm.

I hope thats clear it:

"Yes": if your in hurry you will pay 425K to access the house. But you will be left "fighting hard" for a refund cheque

"No": If you are patient, you will pay less but be patient for several months

I'm new to this industry and that's why I didn't know about valuation. It makes sense to wait a little bit longer then.
Can they allow someone to inspect their unit even if you won't take possession of it at that time?
Ryko
#78 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 7:57:07 PM
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Bad News: The valuation report is out na serikali haichezi it maintained the same rates (meaning no change in initial figures, you got to fork 425K)
3BD valued at 7M
2BD valued at 6M
Here is a glimpse of the report - (owner names & crucial details blacked out)



Being the Kenyan in me i decided to combombulate & analyse this valation report since it has all names owners of (462 apartments Phase 1)
I found this very intresting

1. Women!! Looks like nearly half or more of the owners are women (intresting enough approximately 75% could be from one tribe). If you include husband & wife (woman name included) they are more.

So does it mean, men don't but apartments? ama ni watu wa kujenga? ama wanalewa as the ladies buy properties.? Can the "sponsors" be buying for women this apartments? i highly doubt.
To me it looks like girl child empowernment is real.... if this represents a fraction of apartment buying then the ground is shifting.

2. 60%-70% of the owners are from one tribe (censored). The have & the havenots.. its not fair to be tribal but this tells alot

3. There is one big vocal tribe that comprises of approximately 4% of the owners.
I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
Angelica _ann
#79 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 8:10:04 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,937
Ryko wrote:
Bad News: The valuation report is out na serikali haichezi it maintained the same rates (meaning no change in initial figures, you got to fork 425K)
3BD valued at 7M
2BD valued at 6M
Here is a glimpse of the report - (owner names & crucial details blacked out)



Being the Kenyan in me i decided to combombulate & analyse this valation report since it has all names owners of (462 apartments Phase 1)
I found this very intresting

1. Women!! Looks like nearly half or more of the owners are women (intresting enough approximately 75% could be from one tribe). If you include husband & wife (woman name included) they are more.

So does it mean, men don't but apartments? ama ni watu wa kujenga? ama wanalewa as the ladies buy properties.? Can the "sponsors" be buying for women this apartments? i highly doubt.
To me it looks like girl child empowernment is real.... if this represents a fraction of apartment buying then the ground is shifting.

2. 60%-70% of the owners are from one tribe (censored). The have & the havenots.. its not fair to be tribal but this tells alot

3. There is one big vocal tribe that comprises of approximately 4% of the owners.


Great smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#80 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 9:13:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,318
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ryko wrote:
Bad News: The valuation report is out na serikali haichezi it maintained the same rates (meaning no change in initial figures, you got to fork 425K)
3BD valued at 7M
2BD valued at 6M
Here is a glimpse of the report - (owner names & crucial details blacked out)



Being the Kenyan in me i decided to combombulate & analyse this valation report since it has all names owners of (462 apartments Phase 1)
I found this very intresting

1. Women!! Looks like nearly half or more of the owners are women (intresting enough approximately 75% could be from one tribe). If you include husband & wife (woman name included) they are more.

So does it mean, men don't but apartments? ama ni watu wa kujenga? ama wanalewa as the ladies buy properties.? Can the "sponsors" be buying for women this apartments? i highly doubt.
To me it looks like girl child empowernment is real.... if this represents a fraction of apartment buying then the ground is shifting.

2. 60%-70% of the owners are from one tribe (censored). The have & the havenots.. its not fair to be tribal but this tells alot

3. There is one big vocal tribe that comprises of approximately 4% of the owners.


Great smile

One big vocal tribe?? Which tribe could this be.. Oh.
I can't guess!
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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