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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Wendz wrote:Rollout wrote:Nabwire wrote:Kratos wrote:Rollout wrote:Fikira wrote:Nabwire wrote:murchr wrote:Black people are almost out numbering Asians and you expect people to just sit? Something gotta give. Now all over sudden tetanus is an issue such that 15 - 16 year olds need to be vaccinated. If my memory serves me right we all got some tetanus injection when we were young. Sadly out doctors are in cahoots with this sheeple. Why is this vaccine only being administered in Africa? Nabwire are you getting it huko? Nope, there is no such vaccine here! As far as I know the only vaccines administered are for children 0-5 years and then the flu vaccine which I never get!  And I'm healthier than the average American. Zile maajabu zinafanywa Africa, there was a lady who came over and after 5 years she was like there is this birth control patch that was INSERTED in her arm and she was meant to have it removed after 5 years. Anyways she goes to the hospital and the doctors and nurses are shocked, they had never seen anything like it. She had to be referred to a hospital that does surgery reason being that form of contraceptive is ILLEGAL in the US. She says that its usually given to women as birth control in Kenya  Africa is the testing grounds for so many medical devices and medications! This CDC table shows recommended immunization for adults by age. You'll notice that they recommend Tetanus booster shot every 10yrs (The vaccine exists they just don't say its for women only). http://www.cdc.gov/vacci...-schedule-easy-read.pdf
Are you referring to Implanon? There is now a new version that can be located via x-ray so its easy to locate when you need to remove it. It is NOT illegal in the US and in fact is commonly used in Europe and Australia too. Like other forms of birth control it does come with side effects so it's up to you to decide what you want to put into your body. @Fikira, I think you're sober on this and on point. @ Nabwire, I think it's irresponsible to make wild claims about Africa being testing grounds for biotech if you indeed understand clinical phases of biotech and biotech markets in general. First. Most drugs in pipeline are not meant for emerging markets therefore testing it in Africa won't lead to commercialization. Infact the problem being solved for within biotech industry is not prevalent in Africa. Second. For a device like eSVS Mesh to be insert to a patient for trial, you need a reowned doctors, patient and a state of art facility, it's hard to find all that in most African and developing countries, thats why you find most bio tech companies doing Clinical trials in Europe and Australia. The data is available.
Thirdly. The notion that biotech companies/countries come to Africa to administer drugs as a testing ground is very much inacurate and is mainly repeated by people with no knowledge of the matter. I have followed pharmaceutical and biotech for a couple of year and I have never come a cross a clinical trial done in an African country. Yes there are fake brand drugs, we all know that but most of them come from shady named company in China or India and yes the sell them in Africa and thats a different matter all together. Just a quick question, do you think anyone would admit to testing vaccines or carrying out eugenics in Africa if indeed they were doing it? So just because you have not come across any clinical trials in Africa, we should take your word for it? Yes only India and China are out to finish us with fake drugs, not the loveable Americans and Europeans. Did you know that the mighty US has laws that allow eugenics on its own citizens without their knowledge and consent? This has been practiced on the mentally ill, poor people, people deemed not very smart, criminals etc.. Wachana na huyu, the most brainwashed negro I have ever come across. Just ignore and move on, I'm sure he has never heard of the Tuskegee Airmen who were purposely injected with the Syphillis virus, sembuse Mwafrika! Lol! Tuskegee Airmen thing thought to have happenned 70yrs ago! Haha! Very small brain! @Nabwire... you're just mad because I never gave you some money to invest when you ask me sometime back, I didn't give you any money because I knew you were dumb; if you went to a community college in US, it's like going to village polytechnic in Kenya, not worth anyone's time! how do I connect this with the subject at hand coz I got lost right in the middle of community college? @ Wendz Welcome back, I haven't seen you in wazua for over a year. Again if you don't remember me, this is Drunkard 10k Rollout. To answer your question, the above comment has not connection with the subject but I had a big fight with Nabwire, she called me every name I can think of so gloves were off. Nabwire has this narrow mind about everything but apparently she thinks everyone but her somehow have narrow mind. Sorry Nabwire, I don't wanna start a fight with you again, just saying. Wendz, welcome back again, I truely miss your sober mind!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Fikira wrote:Nabwire wrote:Fikira wrote:[quote=jaggernaut]
The implant is called "depo provera" hapa kenya. Depo provera is NOT an implant. It's an injection that's given in three month intervals. Some info on different birth control methods since people are a bit confused. Fikira I think in Kenya the implant is called Depo provera coz thats what that lady called it too. That doesn't make any sense ... giving the same brand name to two different medications could cause havoc! Here is contraceptive info from an org that offers services in Kenya. You'll notice they have Depo provera in the injectibles section. http://www.mariestopes.or.ke/contraceptives[/quote] @ Fikira You cannot squeeze sense to Nabwire, you can give her a full well documented Journal of Medicine and she will still disagree and point at shadows. In her mind, some white men in some western country are sitting in boardroom right now strategizing on how to sterilize africa. The story about someone with Depo inplants do not make sense because it's not true, it's a made up story to convience people who don't have knowledge about the issue.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Before we even think about someone strategizing on how to sterilize africa, first think about what the benefit that would be for the said sterilizer!
Economically population growth is good because you're looking at growth in consumer base, you're also looking at growth in human capital, so why would anyone want reduction in population?
If any, a whitemen would benefit more if Africa population double because they'll be looking at China-like market in the next couple of years.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Rollout wrote:Before we even think about someone strategizing on how to sterilize africa, first think about what the benefit that would be for the said sterilizer!
Economically population growth is good because you're looking at growth in consumer base, you're also looking at growth in human capital, so why would anyone want reduction in population?
If any, a whitemen would benefit more if Africa population double because they'll be looking at China-like market in the next couple of years. Rapidly growing populations are always thought of as vermin. Its just human nature to.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:Nabwire wrote:Interesting, I have no problem being vaccinated. But when I learn that the vaccines are laced with contraceptives which make you temporarily infertile, and then learn that the same drive was sponsored in 1995 but was pulled because government officials demanded transparency, then learn that the vaccine is only given to women, to be specific women of child bearing age, I would be a fool to line up and get my shot. Yes. Its good to ask questions no doubt. Things must be transparent. Kenya has a huge problem of child delivery. Many women die or get infected when giving birth. This is because health facilities are far away or ill equipped thus many women give birth at home, on the road side or in a very dingy health center. The instruments used during child birth, if not properly handled, can infect a mother with Tetanus. When a woman is pregnant she must take a Tetanus shot before her due date when she attends her clinic sessions. I was given one too while pregnant (I am still fertile by the way ). Unfortunately, in this country, (and by that I mean Kenya...lest our brothers and sisters in the diaspora get confused...) many women do not go for those clinic sessions. They just tafuta a mid-wife or a dispensary on the final day. So, in this scenario, Tetanus is a threat to women and their unborn children. The reason why the Tetanus vaccine is being given to the women of child bearing age is because they are the ones who are most at risk without even knowing it. Of course if you are cut by a mabati or seng'enge you will go for a Tetanus shot but it is the last thing you will think about when you get pregnant, sio?? No, such a campaign cannot be done in America or any other dveloped country because healthcare there is top notch, at least as compared to Kenya. I am not saying that am sure there is nothing fishy about the Vaccine neither am saying that there is something wrong with it. But I understand why it is being given to women of child bearing age. I mean lets face it..how many 14-15 year old girls are having babies nowadays??!! My very long 2 cents
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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chepkel wrote:Muriel wrote:Nabwire wrote:Interesting, I have no problem being vaccinated. But when I learn that the vaccines are laced with contraceptives which make you temporarily infertile, and then learn that the same drive was sponsored in 1995 but was pulled because government officials demanded transparency, then learn that the vaccine is only given to women, to be specific women of child bearing age, I would be a fool to line up and get my shot. Yes. Its good to ask questions no doubt. Things must be transparent. Kenya has a huge problem of child delivery. Many women die or get infected when giving birth. This is because health facilities are far away or ill equipped thus many women give birth at home, on the road side or in a very dingy health center. The instruments used during child birth, if not properly handled, can infect a mother with Tetanus. When a woman is pregnant she must take a Tetanus shot before her due date when she attends her clinic sessions. I was given one too while pregnant (I am still fertile by the way ). Unfortunately, in this country, (and by that I mean Kenya...lest our brothers and sisters in the diaspora get confused...) many women do not go for those clinic sessions. They just tafuta a mid-wife or a dispensary on the final day. So, in this scenario, Tetanus is a threat to women and their unborn children. The reason why the Tetanus vaccine is being given to the women of child bearing age is because they are the ones who are most at risk without even knowing it. Of course if you are cut by a mabati or seng'enge you will go for a Tetanus shot but it is the last thing you will think about when you get pregnant, sio?? No, such a campaign cannot be done in America or any other dveloped country because healthcare there is top notch, at least as compared to Kenya. I am not saying that am sure there is nothing fishy about the Vaccine neither am saying that there is something wrong with it. But I understand why it is being given to women of child bearing age. I mean lets face it..how many 14-15 year old girls are having babies nowadays??!! My very long 2 cents Yes, sister. It is true that the ordinary folk prefer 'traditional birth attendants' to conventional pre and ante natal facilities. Many varied reasons are given such as cruel nurses and midwives. Anyway, rather than opt for turn-key approaches, it would be a far much better option to have these traditional birth attendants much more aware of these things. Rather than wait for salvation from abroad in vials, redemption can be worked out here by us on our own.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/16/2012 Posts: 808
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Busted! http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/14b27xk/-/index.htmlThey tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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[quote=D32]Busted! http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/14b27xk/-/index.html[/quote] Lazy irresponsible journalism. What the anti-vaccination nut jobs run wild with this one. Is the issue at hand the lab results or the contract dispute?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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The "they are out to get us" mob will really run with this one. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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