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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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masukuma wrote:madness i tell you - madness! Masukuma, This is not madness in the sense of lunacy. By such phraseology you insult and provoke the Arab sensibility of honour. You will surely pay perhaps even with your blood! This is a well considered opinion (the ironies notwithstanding), rationally made after evaluation of available options. Underrating the opposition, assigning them the lower pedestal of brutes, is several steps, fathoms, into your own defeat. ION, Guru, when you say "WE DO NOT WANT YOUR UN IN OUR LANDS!" what do you mean? You told us you are going to Rwanda. Is the UN not in Rwanda?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:$  Symbols, You are amused. Why? Irony. About what? Blue and gold but that's a story for another day. Symbols, Alright there brother. Today is another day, also another month for good measure  So whats this about blue and gold? When the move is made I'll point it out and you'll see the connection. Alright. I can wait.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:Sooo, unlike what Alphadoti wants us to believe, njaamenent is a factor. Apparently the Qur'an, hadith and Islamic scholars all mention that virgins will be awarded to Muslim men in Paradise. In Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of Jannah (Paradise). This concept is grounded in Qur'anic text which describe a sensual Paradise where believing men are rewarded by being wed[1] to virgins with "full grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.[2][3] Conversly, women will be provided with only one man, and they "will be satisfied with him".[4] Contemporary mainstream Islamic scholars, for example; Gibril Haddad, have commented on the erotic nature of the Qur'anic Paradise, by saying some men may need ghusl (ablution required after sexual discharge) just for hearing certain verses.[5] Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al-Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have all discussed the sensual pleasures found in Paradise, relating hadith that describe Paradise as a slave market where there will be "no buy and sale, but... If any man will wish to have sexual intercourse with a woman, he will do at once." ..the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal". The sensual pleasures between believers and houri in Paradise are also confirmed by the two Sahih collections of hadith, namely Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, where we read that they will be virgins who are so beautiful, pure and transparent that "the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh", and that "the believers will visit and enjoy them". There are several descriptions related to houri that are found in various Islamic references. Some include: Physical Attributes: Wide and beautiful/lovely eyes Like pearls Hairless except the eye brows and the head Beautiful White skinned 60 cubits [27.5 meters] tall 7 cubits [3.2 meters] in width Transparent to the marrow of their bones Eternally young Companions of equal age Sexual Attributes: Untouched / with hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse Virgins Voluptuous/full-breasted With large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang Appetizing vaginas Link - http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins#Authenticity Bla Bla Bla... You will never understand the mujahideen like they understand you.. Continue with your virgin fantasies meanwhile the third Caliphate is in preparation!! It's futile trying to use Christianity to cleanse your conscience. As you piga nduru za "Allah Wakbar", accept access to gunpowder and WMDs is waaay more in the hands of your "enemies" just that they try exercise a modicum of tolerance. Push it and you obliterated. Since when did you hear Israel saying they don't care for a terror group that wants them wiped off the map as Iran also proclaimed? Since when do you see US dilly dally knowing a terror group is well headed for Baghdad? For now, rest assured, Isreal and America are happy to see "you" annihilate each other in sectarianism as far as they permit. Hii Caliphate ni Ujinga and even you can't see it. Far too caught up in mythical stories. Lets talk again in 10 years! Nandwa wrote:Any religion that produces, abets, condones, encourages and propagates terrorism is not only a dangerous cult but also devilish. Due to the mortal danger it poses to the general populace it calls for the rest of the civilised world to close ranks to ward off the crime-inclined and evil cultists.
Debating with their sympathisers is a complete waste of time unless and until they are cleansed of the mind debilitating indoctrination.
By the way, those who call the shots in the world aren’t Muslims.
Not even on the second tier do you find Muslims.
Think of the Buddhist in China, Japan, the Jews in Israel etc, the Hindu/Sikhs in India and so on.
"God" would never let the mentally twisted to chaperone the world or get anywhere close!
That’s the tough reality.
One would expect that if the truth was with them then their object of adoration would help them to control matters around here. The reality is they are left to employ rudimentary contraptions to target unsuspecting corners of free society, harming poor souls over issues they least care about.
I guess the frustration borne out of the realisation that they are lowly in the global peking order despite what they are taught drives them to hatred and such senseless attacks.
The guy who introduced this monster dealt the world a monstrous disservice.
If only the World was free of these twisted minds, we would all enjoy greater peace and freedoms.
Think of the leeways we would all enjoy whenever going to places such as Airports, Shopping malls, Government installations, Hotels etc.
Heck even roads are getting closed to public use due to these nut cases! You cant stop your car on Mombasa road just after Cabanas.
Airport North road is completely barricaded!
All because of cultists!
Then fellows here keep giving excuses/explanation for the terrorists and their accomplices.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:masukuma wrote:madness i tell you - madness! Masukuma, This is not madness in the sense of lunacy. By such phraseology you insult and provoke the Arab sensibility of honour. You will surely pay perhaps even with your blood! This is a well considered opinion (the ironies notwithstanding), rationally made after evaluation of available options. Underrating the opposition, assigning them the lower pedestal of brutes, is several steps, fathoms, into your own defeat. ION, Guru, when you say "WE DO NOT WANT YOUR UN IN OUR LANDS!" what do you mean? You told us you are going to Rwanda. Is the UN not in Rwanda? the madness I talk about does not imply stupidity, silliness or brutishness it's simply INSANITY! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Mortars landed overnight at the golden-domed al-Askari mosque and injured at least 14 people . This is one of Shiite Islam’s holiest sites, and a potential trigger for all-out civil war if IS successfully attack it. The IS militants have been squeezing Samarra – about 60 miles north of Baghdad - for weeks.
The shrine holds the tombs of Ali al-Hadi, who died in 868, and his son Hassan al-Askari, who died in 874 – both descendants of the Prophet Muhammad and considered by Shiites to be among his successors.
Al Qaeda’s bombing of the revered shrine in 2006 unleashed rivers of blood from the resulting sectarian violence that killed thousands and pushed Iraq down the path of full scale civil war.
Iraq’s Shiite-led government has made protecting Samarra a priority, sending in thousands of troops to reinforce the city. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki personally visited last month to pray at the shrine and meet the city’s chief military commander.
Firebrand anti-American cleric and Mehdi army militia leader Muqtada al-Sadr last week vowed that his supporters will "shake the ground" in the fight against IS militants.
The Iranian State through it's President Hassan Rouhani has also said his country would protect Shiite holy sites in neighboring Iraq from "killers and terrorists."
Despite the staggering levels of violence in Iraq in the last month, it does seem Samarra indeed is the red line for an all-out geo Sunni v Shia war.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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This ISIS thing will soon be beaten back and guys will want to negotiate. The deadliest enemies of the ISIS is middle east regimes who will not countenance this Jihadist crap. Right now it serves a useful purpose in view of the Shiite/Sunni divide. Once balance is restored, the idiots will be hunted down and finished. That's what happened to La Q in Iraq and it will happen again. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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@Alphadoti, BTW I'm serious so usijifanye hukusikia. Caliphate calling!!! BREAKING: ISIS leader's call to Muslims: Go to Iraq and Syria 'to help build Islamic state' The leader of ISIS jihadists has called for Muslims to come to the newly-declared Islamic state, vowing revenge for what he said were wrongs committed against fellow Muslims. This was the first statement by Baghdadi since the group renamed itself. In a 19-minute audiotape, Abu Bakr Baghdadi is heard urging: “Muslims, rush to your state. Yes, it is your state.” He made a special call to scholars, judges, doctors, engineers and people with military and administrative background to come “answer the dire need of the Muslims for them”, according to AP. "There is no better effort in this blessed month or any other than jihad in God's path, so embrace this change and champion Allah's religion through jihad," Baghdadi says in the tape posted online Tuesday. http://rt.com/news/16971...sis-jihad-muslims-syria/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Yeah, they should rush there, its got such a high standard of living LOOOOOOL Maybe global terrorism will drop since they'll be in one country? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better. Afterwards. It won't affect non-muslims afterwards, cause they will have been summarily executed.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better. @AlphDoti and fellows Moslems @guru included, all you need to be doing is heeding Amir's calling, packing your bags and heading to build your state. Its Allah's calling,you know!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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quicksand wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better. Afterwards. It won't affect non-muslims afterwards, cause they will have been summarily executed. No.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@AlphDoti is on record that the al Qaeda, al Shabaab and Boko Haram are creations of the US, and in extension sought to distance himself from them.
Why the turnaround now?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:quicksand wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better. Afterwards. It won't affect non-muslims afterwards, cause they will have been summarily executed. No. Really? You are deluding yourself. It is a tragedy when a person starts deceiving himself. This is happening, in the present...not fiction. ISIS are killing fellow muslims! How are non-muslims to fare? Your jihadists have no respect for human life. Or are you going to claim this is propaganda by the West? http://themuslimissue.wo...m-in-driveby-shootings/
http://www.christiantoda....pay.poll.tax/38408.htm
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better. You are welcome Alphadoti. Simple math ndugu, of what use is a 2.5% loan when you are engaging in 100% destruction of my investment and investment environment? The fact that you and guru are yet to take advantage of that "huge loan advantage" you refer to in Iraq is ironical don't you think? Let me take you to task on that statement "By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim" with actuals. 1. In 2006, the minority Christians were slaughtered by Al Qaeda seeking to establish an Islamic State in Baghdad. The remaining Christians fled to the outskirts of Mosul. 2. Just before the collapse of Mosul 2 weeks ago, the minority Christians have had to flee again to Kurd held territory for refuge from the IS who are implementing Sharia - on fellow Muslims, Christians are dead men walking. I don't have to share any further videos of such executions for you to believe. Try telling them "Sharia will not affect anybody" 3. This past weekend, IS has raised flags over Churches in Mosul. Try telling Christians "Sharia will not affect anybody" 4. In Northern Syria, ISIS as was known then has been executing Christian "Fathers" in towns that the FSA had initially seized but were overrun by ISIS fighters. Try telling Christians "Sharia will not affect anybody".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Guess which jihadist group is the latest to get a @twitter profile?
Oh well, BokoHaram. This is their handle - @BHpressoffice
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:Att: Alphadoti The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'. Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti. Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) @ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges. By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better. You are welcome Alphadoti. Simple math ndugu, of what use is a 2.5% loan when you are engaging in 100% destruction of my investment and investment environment? The fact that you and guru are yet to take advantage of that "huge loan advantage" you refer to in Iraq is ironical don't you think? Let me take you to task on that statement "By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim" with actuals. 1. In 2006, the minority Christians were slaughtered by Al Qaeda seeking to establish an Islamic State in Baghdad. The remaining Christians fled to the outskirts of Mosul. 2. Just before the collapse of Mosul 2 weeks ago, the minority Christians have had to flee again to Kurd held territory for refuge from the IS who are implementing Sharia - on fellow Muslims, Christians are dead men walking. I don't have to share any further videos of such executions for you to believe. Try telling them "Sharia will not affect anybody" 3. This past weekend, IS has raised flags over Churches in Mosul. Try telling Christians "Sharia will not affect anybody" 4. In Northern Syria, ISIS as was known then has been executing Christian "Fathers" in towns that the FSA had initially seized but were overrun by ISIS fighters. Try telling Christians "Sharia will not affect anybody". Own conversion, forced conversion, exile, death and tax are all acceptable means. Two, more or all of these measures are usually, or have been usually, applied simultaneously successfully in history and no one need be taken in that only tax, to the exclusion of the others, will be applied or enforced. Other religions will be paralysed in that they will be strictly prohibited from making converts - that is Muslims are prohibited from converting from Islam (Murtad is a most scary label to be given a muslim remembering that fighting apostates takes precedence over fighting the christians, he/she will be beheaded pap!). Once the current practitioners die off from natural attrition, exile, executions there will be no other religion apart from Islam. Adherents of other religions will have to wear specific identifying clothing to single them out from the rest of the population. Islam is awesome. Lets wait and see if there will be a mass exodus of the ordinary Muslim into the new caliphate. Awesomeness will be that there will be none.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:ION,
Guru, when you say "WE DO NOT WANT YOUR UN IN OUR LANDS!" what do you mean?
You told us you are going to Rwanda. Is the UN not in Rwanda?
I mean any state governed by Sharia! And yes many Islamic states and movements are very misguided and that's why many Muslims flee! But the awaited one is almost here and he will lead us into a "rightly guided" Caliphate! That person is NOT Al Baghdadi... He is simply laying the path for the awaited one! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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The Islamic State is not out to kill any non believers! Christians and Jews have always lived freely in previous Caliphates! The only apostates and non believers we are ready to kill are those that are out to invade us either directly or by proxy! its Very rare to find Muslim militants target women and children which cannot be said about these secular armies! These guys are in a David and Goliath situation and are sometimes forced to commit acts classified as terror to get the upper hand! The European Jews thought they would destroy the Ottoman Caliphate and it would be that simple... Muslims even a millennium from now will still desire the return of the Caliphate! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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