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NSE IPO
kiwaru
#71 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:55:53 AM
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HaMaina wrote:
maka wrote:
tkzee wrote:
I picked this from the BDA article

"The NSE plans to open exchanges in Somalia, South Sudan, Democratic Republic of Congo and Burundi in a bid to neutralise its high exposure in the Kenyan market. Currently the bourse relies on the Kenyan market for all its revenues. "

Seriously what growth is there in this markets??

Zero


Unless the NSE also wishes to tap into the highly profitable lines of terrorism,money laundering, illegal mining etc,etc


Beyond the civil strife currently existing in these economies, there exists a substantial population and natural resources that need to be tapped into. There will then be the entrepreneurs who have ideas big and small that need capital mobilization.
The elephant in the room is the political and social instability. These tend to be transitional (duration is very variable), sort of like a growth phase (here I draw my conclusion from the observation on countries: Civil war in US, genocide in Rwanda, etc). But then thats what risk is all about...NO?
tkzee
#72 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:33:01 AM
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kiwaru wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
maka wrote:
tkzee wrote:
I picked this from the BDA article

"The NSE plans to open exchanges in Somalia, South Sudan, Democratic Republic of Congo and Burundi in a bid to neutralise its high exposure in the Kenyan market. Currently the bourse relies on the Kenyan market for all its revenues. "

Seriously what growth is there in this markets??

Zero


Unless the NSE also wishes to tap into the highly profitable lines of terrorism,money laundering, illegal mining etc,etc


Beyond the civil strife currently existing in these economies, there exists a substantial population and natural resources that need to be tapped into. There will then be the entrepreneurs who have ideas big and small that need capital mobilization.
The elephant in the room is the political and social instability. These tend to be transitional (duration is very variable), sort of like a growth phase (here I draw my conclusion from the observation on countries: Civil war in US, genocide in Rwanda, etc). But then thats what risk is all about...NO?


Well for S.Sudan it may work depending on the recent political outcome but for the rest it may just be a pipe dream
''i can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies,but not the madness of people''-Isaac Newton
whiteowl
#73 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:41:49 AM
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HaMaina wrote:
maka wrote:
tkzee wrote:
I picked this from the BDA article

"The NSE plans to open exchanges in Somalia, South Sudan, Democratic Republic of Congo and Burundi in a bid to neutralise its high exposure in the Kenyan market. Currently the bourse relies on the Kenyan market for all its revenues. "

Seriously what growth is there in this markets??

Zero


Unless the NSE also wishes to tap into the highly profitable lines of terrorism,money laundering, illegal mining etc,etc

Dirty money is the only way to generate sustainable revenue in such areas else they should just stay away.
ecstacy
#74 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:39:55 PM
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Quick question, do you think PPT will allow their own stock to tank?..
Matoe
#75 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:59:23 PM
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The minimum number of shares retail investors can buy is 500
Aguytrying
#76 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:52:34 PM
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@wazua admin. Please merge this post with the other NSE IPO post with 24 posts.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#77 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:57:19 PM
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del
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#78 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:16:09 PM
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http://www.businessdaily.../-/tmc8kyz/-/index.html

http://www.standardmedia...ing-at-sh9-50-per-share

On post #20 i used 212,500,000 shares. My source was the annual report. Ive changed this to reflect the 194,600,000 that will be issued and fully paid for post the offer.

Im using 194,600,000 as the shares for all calculations. And IPO price at 9.50

FY 2013.

PAT- kshs 262.26 million
EPS- 1.35
P/E- 7.04
NAV- 3.76
P/B- 2.52

FY 2012.

PAT- Kshs 84.8 million
EPS- 0.45
PE- 21.34
NAV- 2.53
P/B- 3.75

Im now wondering how they got from 212,500,000 to 194,600,000 shares.

I think this one will rock, what do others feel??




The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#79 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 5:16:45 PM
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JSE is the only other self listed stock exchange. Did some little digging.

Stock chart

https://www.jse.co.za/cu...instrumentmasterid=8290

Annual report 2013

http://66.8.16.130/SENS_20140311_S342571.pdf

Issued shares are a whopping 86,076,464,000

2012.
P/E = 23.6 (using 82 Rand average price)
PAT = 2.5B kshs

2013.
P/E = 16.9 (using current price of ~100.00 Rand)
PAT = 4.2B Kshs

What shocked me was NAV. Can a someone please calculate. I got 0.025 Rand per share but im doubting this!!!??
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
muganda
#80 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:21:45 PM
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Posts: 3,907
Herewith the digital prospectus for NSE IPO https://www.nse.co.ke/nseipo/index.html

Offer pice 9.50
Offer closes 12-Aug-14
Results announced 03-Sep
Commencment of trading 09-Sep

NAV 5.68
Trailing P/E 4.66
Dividend payout ratio 18.6%

Market Capitalisation 1.2bn
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