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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Kagame, Museveni, Kabila, Nkurunziza are all good Democrats... democracy of the gun. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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freiks wrote:Sevian wrote:Just finished reading Lee Kuan Yew 'From Third World to First: The Singapore Story' Looking at the current scenario, Kagame has proven his mettle in word and action - anyone who knew Rwanda between the 90s and now will attest to this: in health, education, infrastructure, economy, agriculture, etc. He's firmly set Rwanda on the path of development. His work is not done. I think he needs more time to continue with the job, otherwise the momentum is lost. His failing will be if he does not craft a meritocratic system, with a process to groom and mentor an heir. So there is predictability, experience to balance the inevitable change I concur with you. Rome was not built in a day Kagame seems to be doing a good job so far, even the Germans gave Angela a third term.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2011 Posts: 125
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nakujua wrote:freiks wrote:Sevian wrote:Just finished reading Lee Kuan Yew 'From Third World to First: The Singapore Story' Looking at the current scenario, Kagame has proven his mettle in word and action - anyone who knew Rwanda between the 90s and now will attest to this: in health, education, infrastructure, economy, agriculture, etc. He's firmly set Rwanda on the path of development. His work is not done. I think he needs more time to continue with the job, otherwise the momentum is lost. His failing will be if he does not craft a meritocratic system, with a process to groom and mentor an heir. So there is predictability, experience to balance the inevitable change I concur with you. Rome was not built in a day Kagame seems to be doing a good job so far, even the Germans gave Angela a third term. What is the alternative to PK? Is there a leader being groomed to take over? Is there someone capable of filling in the shoes? Or will the hyenas take over? Has Kagame been too busy getting Rwanda on its feet to the detriment of a succession plan? or he's just another tin-pot dictator
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2011 Posts: 125
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kiwaru wrote:nakujua wrote:freiks wrote:Sevian wrote:Just finished reading Lee Kuan Yew 'From Third World to First: The Singapore Story' Looking at the current scenario, Kagame has proven his mettle in word and action - anyone who knew Rwanda between the 90s and now will attest to this: in health, education, infrastructure, economy, agriculture, etc. He's firmly set Rwanda on the path of development. His work is not done. I think he needs more time to continue with the job, otherwise the momentum is lost. His failing will be if he does not craft a meritocratic system, with a process to groom and mentor an heir. So there is predictability, experience to balance the inevitable change I concur with you. Rome was not built in a day Kagame seems to be doing a good job so far, even the Germans gave Angela a third term. What is the alternative to PK? Is there a leader being groomed to take over? Is there someone capable of filling in the shoes? Or will the hyenas take over? Has Kagame been too busy getting Rwanda on its feet to the detriment of a succession plan? or he's just another tin-pot dictator Having recently joined a board somewhere, I am starting to understand the need to have INSTITUTIONAL checks and balances. And I acknowledge that these take time to develop. Does Rwanda have these? Are there credible safeguards to dictatorial tendencies by the various centers of power: military, economic, political, administrative?
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2011 Posts: 125
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I think Kenyans are very lucky: in politics, there are 2 major movements (of course the names change every election, as do the people in them); the judiciary is very strong and can/does keep the legislative in check, who in turn keeps the executive on its toes. The media is strong (including the lewd Nairobian) with numerous stakeholders hence no monopoly of influence
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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kiwaru wrote:nakujua wrote:freiks wrote:Sevian wrote:Just finished reading Lee Kuan Yew 'From Third World to First: The Singapore Story' Looking at the current scenario, Kagame has proven his mettle in word and action - anyone who knew Rwanda between the 90s and now will attest to this: in health, education, infrastructure, economy, agriculture, etc. He's firmly set Rwanda on the path of development. His work is not done. I think he needs more time to continue with the job, otherwise the momentum is lost. His failing will be if he does not craft a meritocratic system, with a process to groom and mentor an heir. So there is predictability, experience to balance the inevitable change I concur with you. Rome was not built in a day Kagame seems to be doing a good job so far, even the Germans gave Angela a third term. What is the alternative to PK? Is there a leader being groomed to take over? Is there someone capable of filling in the shoes? Or will the hyenas take over? Has Kagame been too busy getting Rwanda on its feet to the detriment of a succession plan? or he's just another tin-pot dictator In Africa you need a strong man to grow a country - with a power hungry, fanatical and crazy opposition - the likes of MK and PK would 'be had for lunch' Its always a risk, especially in Africa lakini the hope is that if a leader can grow the country to a level where the citizens are comfortable they might in future demand the same from subsequent leaders. Lakini the crazy Libyans proved otherwise, sacrificing their good life just to please kasin.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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I don't mind people being in power for more than 2 terms. Who said two terms is optimal? BTW, how long can a British PM be in power? How long was Thatcher in power?(Now that the ceremonial head has been in that seat for longer than our President's life?) BUT.... Nations must not cheat themselves that only certain individuals can lead them into stability. If a guy comes and sets standards, let them leave after setting those new high standards, esp if the citizenry are into that delusion of one guy being messiah Longevity in power often leads to consequent instability after the leader vacates. Hence the case of Somalia, Zaire & Libya. I like our system and that of our ndugus Tanzania. Build institutions and rely on them. Rwanda could be another Libya
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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Creating another dictator in Africa!!! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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At least in Kenya the succession planning has been done and is clear; from UMK to WSR. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:I don't mind people being in power for more than 2 terms. Who said two terms is optimal? BTW, how long can a British PM be in power? How long was Thatcher in power?(Now that the ceremonial head has been in that seat for longer than our President's life?)
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Nations must not cheat themselves that only certain individuals can lead them into stability. If a guy comes and sets standards, let them leave after setting those new high standards, esp if the citizenry are into that delusion of one guy being messiah
Longevity in power often leads to consequent instability after the leader vacates. Hence the case of Somalia, Zaire & Libya.
I like our system and that of our ndugus Tanzania. Build institutions and rely on them. Rwanda could be another Libya Institutions work after majority of the citizenry have attained a comfortable position - otherwise in poverty institutions make no sense and only a strong man can drive growth, by making peculiar decisions.
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