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washiku wrote:AlphDoti wrote:washiku wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ChumsQuest wrote:maka wrote:Sheikh Ibrahim ,believed to be accomplice of Sheikh Aboud Rogo , among
four people shot dead on the Mombasa -Malindihighway. Sooo freaking tired of this lawlessness in Kenya!!! Hata sitapiga kelele tena....when is anybody going to do the jobs they were paid to do????  Kwani watu wamekuwa mbuzi kuuwawa like it's no biggie??? Come on Kenya...now I'm starting to understand what Kiash has been saying... @ChumsQuest this is exactly what I have been trying to bring the attention of this community here in @Wazua  amp; As far as terrorism is concerned, it is wrong 1001x and it should be fought, in the right manner! But to kill people like dogsyet when they were arrested they were released without charges because there were concrete evidence is very, very wrong. Why are these seen as targetingthe Muslims for harassment, illegal arrests, detention and killing? Why is a government with lawsand judiciary bypassing the normal rules of evidence? Adopting presumption of Guiltjust on the basis of mere suspicion of involvement in terrorism. This is violation of the principle of non-discrimination and fair trial standards. Oh Kenyans, Oh Wazuans are people guilty just because they are Muslims?
And you celebratebecause it is not your son? Because it is not your daughter? NO!!!!!NO!!!! People are not guilty because they are muslims...What is the population of Muslims in Kenya? How comes only a few are mentioned? Its NOT ALL MUSLIMS, its just a few. Who, unfortunately, are also allowed to use the mosques to spread hate. They are not even making it better for the Muslim community. Read here what those spoilt ones are saying: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24263357
Quote:Makaburi makes no apology for his activities and believes they are justified according to his own controversial interpretation of verses in the Koran. "There's no such thing as a moderate Muslim. The prophets did not teach us moderation in Islam - Islam is Islam," he said. "Being a moderate Muslim is accepting what your enemies want you to be."....It is a pipeline which begins with Makaburi and other radical clerics who deliver sermons to young Muslims, often converts who are keen to prove themselves. What is that right "thing" he's talking about? Don't you see that the reporter is conveniently choosing what he wants us to hear? Chosing a point from where the clip should play? Tell me what that "thing" is! I remember once in Wazuawe up and arms complaining about some local TV stations conveniently showing a clip half-way to pass a certain unintented message. We compared full clip in another station and the meaning was toally different. What you're quoting is what the reporter has put in place for you. What is controversial interpretation of Quran? Which activities is he talking about? If this is your approach then I am left worried that you support them too. I dont believe Muslims are to blame for these things. I have friends who are muslims and they dont come anywhere close to this radicalism. They even condemn these so called radical preachers. When a preacher supports Al-shabaab, there is no way you can convince me they are mis-quoted. Everything else they say loses meaning. They are simply killers, directly or in-directly. I am afraid you are now here supporting them.   Nandwa wrote:Tokyo wrote:AlphDoti wrote:McReggae wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Magigi wrote:Where are former presidents Kibaki and Moi... Terrorism bloomed during their rein and left it to Uhuru to fight. Don't blame it on M01 or Kibs. You need to look back to 1990. There is a guy who started this thing, and since then has become a ripple effect. Before this date, there was nothing like this happening in the world. Actually, this act was exclusive to this "special" country who was engaged in terrorising people around with immunity. 1. Do you remember the invasion of South America 2. Christopher columbus discovery that led to native Indians liquidated 3. The French and Carlifonia. 4. Move on to the land called Africa 5. Inside Africa 6. What about Australia? 7. We can go to the land of India, China. 8. Far East, Philipine, Indonasia ... 9. Japan and Hiroshima nuclear bombing... Historically, nearly 0.5 billion people! Norfolk hotel in the 80s??? After 1990they gave the word "Terrorism" a whole new meaning. Something totally different. What is the definition of terrorism?Now somebody make their own definition of terrorism. I was taught that a word in a language had meaning, and definition does not change from day to day, from time to time, from place to place. An apple is apple in China, and it does not become an orange in America. Nobody...And a president of US or a president of Europe or Australia or any country does not change the name of terrorism or the meaning of it because of his idea. It's a definition and according to the language, it has to remain as definition. So if you go to any English dictionaryand see what is the definition of terrorism. Not the definition that just came 70 years ago, or 20 years ago, not the definition that the Americans or British or Australians give. Not a special definition. No. And pay attention, and after you check the definition, we are going to speak about some actions which have been done in the last 200 hundred years since this definition was made. Let us check out the definition of terrorismQuote:Terrorism: The act of protracted or spontanious inflicting, of systematic attacks, and assaults and intrusion upon individuals and places within human populaiton with the purpose of instilling fear tremour. I have listed historically a few examplesThey never defined any of those actions, any of these barbaric, tragic intrusions, criminal occupation, distablization, murder and protracted crimes on humanity, they never called terrorism. It's unbelieavble how a conceptscould be forced on the world with their eyes wide open, and all the lives and all the time, that people even learned ones, know these things, when they are talked about it, with temselves, and don't understand where our problems are rooted. Seems you got brainwashed. Well that's religion. Conformity to fundamental ideologies. I quite agree! A guy of that line of thought is a guy to be wary of! Most terrorist will share in those thoughts. To them the enemy is USA, Israel, and the West in general as well as their interests anywhere in the world e.g Westgate! or anybody who cooperates with them. Sad what dogma does to otherwise fine people! " alt=""/> Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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