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Impunity
#71 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:14:06 PM
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limanika wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Allank wrote:

Agreed! very rare only in kenya do we still operate the lunatic 600VLTS!!! DC-DC but all is not lost,see http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/jt56ace.jsp for what to expect from china!!! The JT56ACe can pull upto 5000 tones @120kph assuming a 20ft container is 22tones thats approximatesly 230 containers at a GO! or if you wish 115 trucks!! at this rate the NEW BERTH @KPA will be of no use...but again when did leaders of this great nation become better planners?


I really want to be an Amicus Curiae in this new rail project, how can I get the nod of the powers that be? Must I know the person who knows another person up there for me to be considered?
I will give my advice for free, but I want to be doing so in a round table not just sending emails which some vultures may lay claim on.

There was tender floated recently by KRC for design review and construction supervision of the same why didn’t you buy? Otherwise why do you think your advice is important / needed?


I know much about the Railway thing and Railway is in my heart!
I dont want this project to stall or fail.

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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dunkang
#72 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:20:44 PM
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Impunity wrote:
limanika wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Allank wrote:

Agreed! very rare only in kenya do we still operate the lunatic 600VLTS!!! DC-DC but all is not lost,see http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/jt56ace.jsp for what to expect from china!!! The JT56ACe can pull upto 5000 tones @120kph assuming a 20ft container is 22tones thats approximatesly 230 containers at a GO! or if you wish 115 trucks!! at this rate the NEW BERTH @KPA will be of no use...but again when did leaders of this great nation become better planners?


I really want to be an Amicus Curiae in this new rail project, how can I get the nod of the powers that be? Must I know the person who knows another person up there for me to be considered?
I will give my advice for free, but I want to be doing so in a round table not just sending emails which some vultures may lay claim on.

There was tender floated recently by KRC for design review and construction supervision of the same why didn’t you buy? Otherwise why do you think your advice is important / needed?


I know much about the Railway thing and Railway is in my heart!
I dont want this project to stall or fail.

The first CORDashian who atleast wants Kenya to develop during this JUBILEE 20 years reign!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

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limanika
#73 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:31:30 PM
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Impunity wrote:
limanika wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Allank wrote:

Agreed! very rare only in kenya do we still operate the lunatic 600VLTS!!! DC-DC but all is not lost,see http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/jt56ace.jsp for what to expect from china!!! The JT56ACe can pull upto 5000 tones @120kph assuming a 20ft container is 22tones thats approximatesly 230 containers at a GO! or if you wish 115 trucks!! at this rate the NEW BERTH @KPA will be of no use...but again when did leaders of this great nation become better planners?


I really want to be an Amicus Curiae in this new rail project, how can I get the nod of the powers that be? Must I know the person who knows another person up there for me to be considered?
I will give my advice for free, but I want to be doing so in a round table not just sending emails which some vultures may lay claim on.

There was tender floated recently by KRC for design review and construction supervision of the same why didn’t you buy? Otherwise why do you think your advice is important / needed?


I know much about the Railway thing and Railway is in my heart!
I dont want this project to stall or fail.


Ok will take that as a joke…
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Impunity
#74 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:34:20 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Impunity wrote:
limanika wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Allank wrote:

Agreed! very rare only in kenya do we still operate the lunatic 600VLTS!!! DC-DC but all is not lost,see http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/jt56ace.jsp for what to expect from china!!! The JT56ACe can pull upto 5000 tones @120kph assuming a 20ft container is 22tones thats approximatesly 230 containers at a GO! or if you wish 115 trucks!! at this rate the NEW BERTH @KPA will be of no use...but again when did leaders of this great nation become better planners?


I really want to be an Amicus Curiae in this new rail project, how can I get the nod of the powers that be? Must I know the person who knows another person up there for me to be considered?
I will give my advice for free, but I want to be doing so in a round table not just sending emails which some vultures may lay claim on.

There was tender floated recently by KRC for design review and construction supervision of the same why didn’t you buy? Otherwise why do you think your advice is important / needed?


I know much about the Railway thing and Railway is in my heart!
I dont want this project to stall or fail.

The first CORDashian who atleast wants Kenya to develop during this JUBILEE 20 years reign!


I dont see it as a Cordeshian/Jubree thing...Railway is bigger than Uhunye and RAO.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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MKWASI
#75 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:21:21 PM
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Impunity wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Impunity wrote:
limanika wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Allank wrote:

Agreed! very rare only in kenya do we still operate the lunatic 600VLTS!!! DC-DC but all is not lost,see http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/jt56ace.jsp for what to expect from china!!! The JT56ACe can pull upto 5000 tones @120kph assuming a 20ft container is 22tones thats approximatesly 230 containers at a GO! or if you wish 115 trucks!! at this rate the NEW BERTH @KPA will be of no use...but again when did leaders of this great nation become better planners?


I really want to be an Amicus Curiae in this new rail project, how can I get the nod of the powers that be? Must I know the person who knows another person up there for me to be considered?
I will give my advice for free, but I want to be doing so in a round table not just sending emails which some vultures may lay claim on.

There was tender floated recently by KRC for design review and construction supervision of the same why didn’t you buy? Otherwise why do you think your advice is important / needed?


I know much about the Railway thing and Railway is in my heart!
I dont want this project to stall or fail.

The first CORDashian who atleast wants Kenya to develop during this JUBILEE 20 years reign!


I dont see it as a Cordeshian/Jubree thing...Railway is bigger than Uhunye and RAO.


Well said...Applause Applause Applause
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josimar
#76 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2013 4:36:46 PM
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The business daily reports the finance for the project was advanced at 4.1 per cent and the government negotiated for a grace period of 10 years after which the repayment will be spread over 30 to 40 years.

http://www.businessdaily.../-/13ec8ta/-/index.html


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limanika
#77 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:23:16 PM
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josimar wrote:
The business daily reports the finance for the project was advanced at 4.1 per cent and the government negotiated for a grace period of 10 years after which the repayment will be spread over 30 to 40 years.

http://www.businessdaily.../-/13ec8ta/-/index.html




Can Mukiha / a Wazuan well versed with economics theory do a cost-benefit analysis for this project?
Notes:
1. Assume 75% of the money advanced will go back to circulate in Chinese economy since all materials will be sourced from China, as well as 75% of the workers.
2. Assume Kenya will pay 17b*40 (680b) to China over a period of 40 years.
4. Assume 50% of all cargo destined for hinterland is transported via SGR
5. Assume project is to be funded by the 1.5% import duty newly levied on all imported goods
6. Assume the economic life of the railway is 100 years.

Waiting….
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murchr
#78 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:51:43 AM
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Cde Monomotapa
#79 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:00:00 PM
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murchr wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Treasury-collects-Sh5bn-railway-tax-in-three-months/-/539552/2083446/-/7i4bjcz/-/index.html


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PKoli
#80 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2013 8:04:15 PM
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limanika wrote:
josimar wrote:
The business daily reports the finance for the project was advanced at 4.1 per cent and the government negotiated for a grace period of 10 years after which the repayment will be spread over 30 to 40 years.

http://www.businessdaily.../-/13ec8ta/-/index.html




Can Mukiha / a Wazuan well versed with economics theory do a cost-benefit analysis for this project?
Notes:
1. Assume 75% of the money advanced will go back to circulate in Chinese economy since all materials will be sourced from China, as well as 75% of the workers.
2. Assume Kenya will pay 17b*40 (680b) to China over a period of 40 years.
4. Assume 50% of all cargo destined for hinterland is transported via SGR
5. Assume project is to be funded by the 1.5% import duty newly levied on all imported goods
6. Assume the economic life of the railway is 100 years.

Waiting….

We can re-look at the estimates.

First, not all materials will be sourced from China. At the most pessimistic estimate, 50% of workers will be from China.

I think with technological advances, we can have economic life of the railway being 100 years. Maybe 50 years.
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