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SYRIA The End Game
AlphDoti
#71 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 3:20:13 PM
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2012 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
2012 wrote:
Anbu wrote:
Apparently Trump holds shares of Raytheon, the company that makes Tomahawks

It's interesting how civilians in the States have shares in military hardware. These people are more powerful than the Generals in the military and they call the shots because the government is run by civilians.
Imagine if CMC was in charge of building our military vehicles, we would never leave Somali and Juba.
Why would civilians not have shares in private companies contracted to develop military hardware. Most of this military equipment manufacturers are actually listed entities and anyone can buy shares, example Boeing.
I don't think such companies should be directly involved in politics. It's a serious and dangerous conflict of interest. These companies will want to test their products in real warfare and the easiest way is to get the president to create a war somewhere. Such companies should be under the control of the government in order to get contracts or to be allowed to operate otherwise they'd be terrorists developing illegal weapons.

But the US is interesting, they never learn, I remember the rivalry between gun manufacturers Smith & Wesson and Colt, Colt supplied guns to the South army yet he was a northerner during the American north and south war, the Colt gun killed the largest number of the northern army where Samuel Colt was a soldier.

Obi 1 Kanobi
#72 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 4:16:20 PM
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2012 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
2012 wrote:
Anbu wrote:
Apparently Trump holds shares of Raytheon, the company that makes Tomahawks


It's interesting how civilians in the States have shares in military hardware. These people are more powerful than the Generals in the military and they call the shots because the government is run by civilians.
Imagine if CMC was in charge of building our military vehicles, we would never leave Somali and Juba.


Why would civilians not have shares in private companies contracted to develop military hardware. Most of this military equipment manufacturers are actually listed entities and anyone can buy shares, example Boeing.


I don't think such companies should be directly involved in politics. It's a serious and dangerous conflict of interest. These companies will want to test their products in real warfare and the easiest way is to get the president to create a war somewhere. Such companies should be under the control of the government in order to get contracts or to be allowed to operate otherwise they'd be terrorists developing illegal weapons.

But the US is interesting, they never learn, I remember the rivalry between gun manufacturers Smith & Wesson and Colt, Colt supplied guns to the South army yet he was a northerner during the American north and south war, the Colt gun killed the largest number of the northern army where Samuel Colt was a soldier.

I don't understand your concern. In this case, Raytheon is a publicly listed company. The shares are listed on Dow Jones, even you (a kenyan) can buy them shares now if you wanted.
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AlphDoti
#73 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 5:04:18 PM
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2012 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Assad should have cut a deal with the US while Obama is still around. The next president will not be as sympathetic or empathetic, and regardless of what they think, Russia and US are not equals, somehow the US will bend Russia to its will through pressure or bribery, then Assad will be left on his own to fend off a rabid insurgency backed by CIA Black Ops, who will then turn on each other and then on the US and Syria like every other Middle Eastern Country will remain as shit as ever.

All this calculated to ensure the survival of Israel and a low price for oil.

Pµt1n already warn them not to mess with ñµcléär Rµss1ä, he is not going to bend... If they insist in pushing the nonsense, WWÏÏÏ is imminent...

Don't mean to chest thump but I called it perfectly.
Don't you mean 'chest Trump'?

Quote: Two months ago when these people were fleeing, they were refused entrance. Now they're dead and all of a sudden they care? Let them save their crocodile tears, this hypocritical aggressor!
Rahatupu
#74 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 5:19:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Assad should have cut a deal with the US while Obama is still around. The next president will not be as sympathetic or empathetic, and regardless of what they think, Russia and US are not equals, somehow the US will bend Russia to its will through pressure or bribery, then Assad will be left on his own to fend off a rabid insurgency backed by CIA Black Ops, who will then turn on each other and then on the US and Syria like every other Middle Eastern Country will remain as shit as ever.

All this calculated to ensure the survival of Israel and a low price for oil.

Pµt1n already warn them not to mess with ñµcléär Rµss1ä, he is not going to bend... If they insist in pushing the nonsense, WWÏÏÏ is imminent...

Don't mean to chest thump but I called it perfectly.
Don't you mean 'chest Trump'?

Quote: Two months ago when these people were fleeing, they were refused entrance. Now they're dead and all of a sudden they care? Let them save their crocodile tears, this hypocritical aggressor!

@Alphadoti, they are terrified peace would break in Syria hence had to move quickly and "save" the
terrorists from annihilation. They staged the gas attacks
Matoe
#75 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 8:10:37 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Assad should have cut a deal with the US while Obama is still around. The next president will not be as sympathetic or empathetic, and regardless of what they think, Russia and US are not equals, somehow the US will bend Russia to its will through pressure or bribery, then Assad will be left on his own to fend off a rabid insurgency backed by CIA Black Ops, who will then turn on each other and then on the US and Syria like every other Middle Eastern Country will remain as shit as ever.

All this calculated to ensure the survival of Israel and a low price for oil.

Pµt1n already warn them not to mess with ñµcléär Rµss1ä, he is not going to bend... If they insist in pushing the nonsense, WWÏÏÏ is imminent...

Don't mean to chest thump but I called it perfectly.
Don't you mean 'chest Trump'?

Quote: Two months ago when these people were fleeing, they were refused entrance. Now they're dead and all of a sudden they care? Let them save their crocodile tears, this hypocritical aggressor!

@Alphadoti, they are terrified peace would break in Syria hence had to move quickly and "save" the
terrorists from annihilation. They staged the gas attacks

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Ngalaka
#76 Posted : Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:26:56 PM
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U.S. ambassador to the United Nations accusing the Kremlin of “covering up” for Syrian President Bashar Assad.
Quote:
“You saw this terrible tragedy on innocent people, a lot of them children,” Nikki Haley said on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday. “And the first reaction from Russia wasn’t, ‘How horrible.’ It wasn’t, ‘How could they do this?’ It wasn’t, ‘How did this happen?’ It was, ‘Assad didn’t do it, Assad didn’t do it.’ Why was that the reaction?”
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AlphDoti
#77 Posted : Monday, April 17, 2017 3:55:58 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
In the words of Ron Paul:
“The peace talks have ended now. They’re terrified that peace was going to break out! Al-Qaeda was on the run, peace talks were happening, and all of a sudden, they had to change, and this changes things dramatically! I don’t expect peace talks anytime soon or in the distant future.”


muganda
#78 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 3:05:26 PM
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The trouble with war is about 100 died in Ibid province due to controversial chemical attack (allegedly targeting civilians). 500 dead in a month due to US airstrikes in response to the issue (done to avoid civilians).


AlphDoti
#79 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:16:38 PM
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Ghouta bleeding... Pray
Ngalaka
#80 Posted : Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:38:59 AM
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Another Chemical attack on Civilians reported on April 8 2018.

Then this follows:

Russia fires back
Quote:
"It is necessary to warn once again that military intervention under far-fetched and fabricated pretexts in Syria, where the Russian servicemen are deployed at the request of the legitimate government, is absolutely unacceptable and might lead to very severe consequences," - Statement from Moscow, by Putin's Foreign Ministry
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