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murchr wrote:kamundu wrote:alma wrote:@Kamundu, still waiting on the salary numbers. Stop telling us WHO numbers. We all know that there are only 3 international footballers in Kenya while Brazil has 1billion.
How much are you being paid and how much do you want to be paid?
The tax payer who you are refusing to treat in your strike is the one footing your bill.
So please, save us the melodrama and tell us how much. @alma. Fyi, i ont even work for Gok/ or Knh. Im in private practice. With that said, here are the numbers Registrars ( the majority) Who work 70hrs a week in Knh= 0shs What used to happen was that gava used to sponsor doctors to Uon after 5yrs or so in service. Then came corruption and misappropriation of funds. Soon doctors realised that to rise in the job group scales, the sama gava that was refusing to let the go back to school plus study leave etc, wanted one to have a masters. So up until last year, most guys were advised by afya house that they had to resign if they wanted to pursue postgraduate education coz there was no money. And thats what happened. Bteween 2003 and 2011, many doctors were forced to quit gava and pursue masomo. To make ends meet, they treat you and you kids at the private hosis you all like part time. Then after you maliza your masomo, the same gava tells you that for you to be recognized as a specialist, you have to work for them for free for 2years. mind you , they didnt pay for your tuition. So all in all you do 4years plus a further 2years at KNH for free! Then the gava finally realise they need you, so they give you a job and post you to Wajir, where there is no theatre, Xray equipment etc. So as a newly qualified surgeon, you really feel frustrated Nowyou are well into your 30s. When you ask for someone to look into your remuneration, they say " well its a calling, so live with it". So, to survive, you decide to lump all your cases into 2 or three days a week. Then do some locum in Nairobi to pay the rent. You know get my drift? You say you don't work for KNH but private practice, did you go thru UON of KU med sch? If yes, how long have you served as a doc in these hosp? On the red....did they subsidize your education costs? I think GOK should do away with the subsidizing of education and let all these people take up loans to pay for it. In the US the average med student graduates with a loan of over $100k, which he has to pay with the peanuts that they get when they start work. That's why many never leave the hosp that they were training in. eg if u went to a med sch with a hosp chances are ur stuck there for the longest and they still take up loans to specialize in whatever. I think Docs should stop thinking that they should be treated any better than the lawyers who work at the AG's office. If its about brains, they all sat for KCSE and chances are they all got A's. Actually, specialty training in developed countries, including the US is paid. Their debt comes from medical school. Privately sponsored medical training is very rare in the US and other developed countries. In the US, On the rare occasion one finds it the programs specify one must prove to have a source of funds that will pay you a salary that is equivalent to others in the same training thus you will only find people from countries like Saudi Arabia where the government has made it a priority to train specialist docs as "privately sponsored". There are a few private sponsored training sites in Europe but these are observerships, meaning look but don't touch. The programs are strictly for foreigners with the understanding you will go home after training. Though it sounds like this is the model some wazuan's would like for Kenya because these guys who go to Europe pay fees, learn but do not work. But why I said even in my earlier post that this is going backwards is imagine having your appendix removed by a guy who has watched it 100 times vs a guy who has assisted someone and been observerved and corrected as he is doing it. Which doc would you choose?
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