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Jubilee Holdings results FY2010 profit jumps 84 pct
the deal
#71 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 7:36:46 AM
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[quote=Gordon Gekko]Funny, today's Business Daily,

Read reason 2.....

http://www.businessdaily...-/1237af1z/-/index.html[/quote]
@GG i believe you are a very good accountant...the numbers just dont quiet add up...there is something amis with their accounting policies...if i use the same evaluation methods i used on Britak then JUB is a SELL...wait for my Blog post on this...
The Merchant
#72 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 4:45:16 PM
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@the deal & @guru. We are waiting to read your diffrent views on Jubilee. This should be interesting.
PKoli
#73 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 6:03:05 PM
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@the deal, please post your opinion on JBL as soon you can.
Cde Monomotapa
#74 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 6:49:05 PM
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Similar changes happened at KCB's AGM i.e Ernst & Young to KPMG.
invest0r
#75 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 8:34:03 PM
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The Merchant wrote:
@the deal & @guru. We are waiting to read your diffrent views on Jubilee. This should be interesting.

You also need to listen to @msimon. He has a very good understanding of insurance matters
QW25071985
#76 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 8:36:37 PM
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invest0r wrote:
The Merchant wrote:
@the deal & @guru. We are waiting to read your diffrent views on Jubilee. This should be interesting.

You also need to listen to @msimon. He has a very good understanding of insurance matters


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VituVingiSana
#77 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 8:49:27 PM
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#2 http://www.businessdaily...-/1237af1z/-/index.html does NOT apply. Jubilee has been changing auditors every 3 years for years [it is not a new policy]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#78 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 8:58:34 PM
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I looked at the numbers over and over and in the process i realised why i'm a JUB shareholder...i'm a JUB shareholder not bcoz of JUB insurance but its investment arm...without Income from Investment JUB will be loss making because its Insurance arm is or has been struggling so mSimon was right in that regard...no1 insurer in EA...i think its a marketing gimmick.
The Merchant
#79 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 10:35:39 PM
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Oh my. Im looking at Jubilee numbers and I see what msimon means. Jubilee definitely passes tests 2 & 3 but fails on the first one which @msimon clims is the most crucial. I however do know that even Berkshire Harthaway makes underwriting losses sometimes yet it has recorded tremendous growth over the years. Isnt the fact that Jubilee is recording massive growth without necessarily having a huge underwriting margin more reason for us to buy the stock? Just wondering.

Funny thing is that no one seems to dispute that Jubilee has good management. The issue here seems to be that few believe the growth exhibited last year can be sustained.

@thedeal...How does your Britak compare, they are extremely exposed to Equity aren't they? Insurance as a business is tough (hence the smartest guys in the world working there, actuaries) but in Kenya its more than tough because it remains such a vague concept for most Kenyans. The only thing an insurance company can do to keep shareholders happy is manage costs and make aim for supernormal returns from investment. On this basis, I think Jubilee has done very well. Is it sustainable? I do not know, @guru help here....
The Merchant
#80 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 10:49:02 PM
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the deal wrote:
I looked at the numbers over and over and in the process i realised why i'm a JUB shareholder...i'm a JUB shareholder not bcoz of JUB insurance but its investment arm...without Income from Investment JUB will be loss making because its Insurance arm is or has been struggling so mSimon was right in that regard...no1 insurer in EA...i think its a marketing gimmick.

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