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iris
#771 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:39:51 PM
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@Maka, since no interest rates are mentioned in the current bond (FXD 2/2017/5), what metric does one use to know whether to get in or not?


You check where the 5 year bond is trading at....yield curve...implied yields for Friday.
But then if its a small amount you just bid at average the difference in basis points from the cutoff is a negligible fig most times...


Thanks


@All...Results for the 5 year auction (2/2017/5)



Asante @maka smile


Rates will have to go up in the near future...good for buyers.


What informs your prediction? And thanks for the results
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maka
#772 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:55:23 PM
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iris wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
iris wrote:
maka wrote:
iris wrote:
@Maka, since no interest rates are mentioned in the current bond (FXD 2/2017/5), what metric does one use to know whether to get in or not?


You check where the 5 year bond is trading at....yield curve...implied yields for Friday.
But then if its a small amount you just bid at average the difference in basis points from the cutoff is a negligible fig most times...


Thanks


@All...Results for the 5 year auction (2/2017/5)



Asante @maka smile


Rates will have to go up in the near future...good for buyers.


What informs your prediction? And thanks for the results


Revenue collection has been terrible the past few months the eminent deficit will have to be plugged mostly by domestic borrowing... bids off the yield curve will slowly start being accepted going forward.

Rem the governor said this early this year... https://www.standardmedi...n-yields-on-state-bonds

The current and future environment wont listen to him....
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lochaz-index
#773 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:45:07 AM
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maka wrote:
iris wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
iris wrote:
maka wrote:
iris wrote:
@Maka, since no interest rates are mentioned in the current bond (FXD 2/2017/5), what metric does one use to know whether to get in or not?


You check where the 5 year bond is trading at....yield curve...implied yields for Friday.
But then if its a small amount you just bid at average the difference in basis points from the cutoff is a negligible fig most times...


Thanks


@All...Results for the 5 year auction (2/2017/5)



Asante @maka smile


Rates will have to go up in the near future...good for buyers.


What informs your prediction? And thanks for the results


Revenue collection has been terrible the past few months the eminent deficit will have to be plugged mostly by domestic borrowing... bids off the yield curve will slowly start being accepted going forward.

Rem the governor said this early this year... https://www.standardmedi...n-yields-on-state-bonds

The current and future environment wont listen to him....

Agreed. A substantial uptick in rates is way overdue. Cbk has been playing rope-a-dope long enough, about time the market tests his bluff on the yield curve especially now in a tight liquidity environment.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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maka
#774 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 6:46:57 PM
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iris wrote:
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Thanks again.. I could not find information on CBK site that is presented in this format. Where should I look? I am sorted now though


NSE are the custodians of this info...smile

Its just that posting info here is tedious Sad would be doing it everyday... the price list i.e

Or you can pay here...smile


https://www.nse.co.ke/pr...es/historical-data.html


I am too occasional a user who would be happy to leech off you once in a while if you do not mind smile


Does the wazua google group still exist? I can send excel sheets huko?


It seems to be alive, only slow. Try sending


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#775 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:58:14 PM
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maka
#776 Posted : Friday, October 20, 2017 8:00:26 AM
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#777 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 5:17:42 PM
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maka
#778 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2017 6:59:56 PM
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Thanks...smile Let me start sending.
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maka
#779 Posted : Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:49:25 AM
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Sent implied yields for last week and yesterdays price list...
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iris
#780 Posted : Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:36:52 PM
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Sent implied yields for last week and yesterdays price list...


Seen them smile
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