obiero wrote:huyo mtu amesema KRA itashika KQ planes for any eventual default, must be living in Utopia.. those who saw KCB on its knees in 2004 as a loss making firm know what I am talking about
"Huyo Mtu" ... Kwani?
Anyway, there is little benefit in GoK saving KQ with a 'loan' after KRA [with GoK's blessings] brings KQ down.
As an EXISTING shareholder you do not benefit from GoK (vs Opportunity Cost) in your business as a savior. To counter your KCB, "Huyo Mtu" refers you to KPLC. GoK hobbled KPLC by imposing managers [Samuel Gichuru], GoK departments not making payments, Rural Electrification and not allowing KPLC to recover its costs so leading it into bankruptcy.
GoK then lent KPLC money and converted some loans into Preference Shares which were then converted into Ordinary Shares with 51% ownership by GoK. Immediately after the Rights Issue, GoK refused a triennial rate increase which KPLC was due. And ma-shida for KPLC started.
KCB - GoK led it into bankruptcy but CBK 'saved' it to prevent a financial meltdown in Kenya. This was NOT a cash injection but CBK overlooked applying strict financial ratios.
After Kibaki came in, GoK repaid many of the loans even if these were misappropriated. Low savings rates in the early Kibaki years allowed KCB to make huge margins [Interest Spreads] to reduce their losses. Furthermore, KCB had to have 2 Rights Issues to right their capital inadequacies. And GoK has reduced its shareholding in KCB over the years.
Anyway... @obiero ... have fun

I am staying out of KQ until Naikuni AND Mbugua leave. I will review my position in early 2015. And I am a pragmatist so if I see good things before 2015 then I might dip my toe in.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett