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Chase Bank loss...another case of cooking the books?
2012
#721 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 8:36:10 AM
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Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.

BBI will solve it
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Gathige
#722 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 12:34:55 PM
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2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.



@2012, Taking the legal route on the firms and LSK has a snow balls chance in hell. Chase bank was doing a legit business and had a banking license to engage in banking. The firms you engaged were dealing with a legal bank and the only recourse you may have is to sue the directors of Chase to recover the losses from them, again a snow ball chance as they may have engaged in criminal activity leading to the collapse.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
mkenyan
#723 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 3:11:27 PM
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2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.

you may sue the law firms. If the money was paid to them to hold as stakeholders, then it is immaterial whether they deposited in a licensed bank which went under. that is not a viable defence to them (maybe a mitigation to allow them to pay in instalments). forget what gathige has posted above, it is ill-advised and has no basis in law as a defence. advocates usually have an indemnity cover but it is mostly for negligence and fidelity issues. but best find out if the insurance cover for yours had an extension to cover such eventualities. if yes then you sue the law firm and the insurance pays. if not then you sue the law firm and hope the proprietor/partners has/have enough money to pay you otherwise you may have judgement with no money. as for lsk, they have no liability in this. so don’t waste your time with them.
2012
#724 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 6:41:48 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.

you may sue the law firms. If the money was paid to them to hold as stakeholders, then it is immaterial whether they deposited in a licensed bank which went under. that is not a viable defence to them (maybe a mitigation to allow them to pay in instalments). forget what gathige has posted above, it is ill-advised and has no basis in law as a defence. advocates usually have an indemnity cover but it is mostly for negligence and fidelity issues. but best find out if the insurance cover for yours had an extension to cover such eventualities. if yes then you sue the law firm and the insurance pays. if not then you sue the law firm and hope the proprietor/partners has/have enough money to pay you otherwise you may have judgement with no money. as for lsk, they have no liability in this. so don’t waste your time with them.



Thank you for that. That's the direction we've chosen to take although everyone seems to be discouraging it.

BBI will solve it
:)
Chaka
#725 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 6:56:01 PM
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The sale was done just before Chase bank went under?Whats the proof that the proceeds were banked at Chase?

2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.

Chaka
#726 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 6:57:35 PM
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The sale was done just before Chase bank went under?Whats the proof that the proceeds were banked at Chase?

2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.

Angelica _ann
#727 Posted : Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:13:58 PM
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maka
#728 Posted : Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:21:16 PM
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Chaka wrote:
The sale was done just before Chase bank went under?Whats the proof that the proceeds were banked at Chase?

2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.



Thats a genuine question...

Ummmh but I thought Chase bank is operational or there is a limit you cant access...Sad
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mkenyan
#729 Posted : Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:28:20 PM
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maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
The sale was done just before Chase bank went under?Whats the proof that the proceeds were banked at Chase?

2012 wrote:
Morning members. We are seeking advise. We've heard many views but we want to hear yours too. We are a group of people who have sold property though law firms and the money is purportedly held in the firms accounts in Chase Bank. We are looking for joint legal action against the firms and probably even the LSK. Please advice. Thanks.



Thats a genuine question...

Ummmh but I thought Chase bank is operational or there is a limit you cant access...Sad

last they told me (chase bank) is that 'new' money can be withdrawn while 'old' money is still not accessible. that was some time this year. not much has changed to the best of my knowledge.
washiku
#730 Posted : Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:08:42 PM
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