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masukuma		#701 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:33:03 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		it's a pissing contest with nothing to gain just something to lose! it's TUTAMUONYESHA NCHI IKO NA WENYEWE... ATAJUA HAJUI e.t.c. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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alma1		#702 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:37:28 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo		hardwood wrote: alma1 wrote: hardwood wrote: Bwahahaha. Govt now saying they can't enforce the court order to produce miguna in court tmr because they don't have a person my the name Joshua Miguna Miguna in their custody. They say they only have an undocumented male who arrived on an emirates flight and has no travel documents and therefore don't know who he is and there is no way to know who he is. It is amazing. You do know that an ID is not the only way to identify an undocumented person? The same officials were this morning tweeting that the same individual was called Miguna Miguna and they were sending papers for him to sign. Hardwood, kwa kweli. You are losing support even from people who don't like Miguna. Very quickly. Do the needful. Take him to court, prove he's not a citizen then deport him. It's that easy. Really shameful for Kenyans at large. How are authorities expected to identify an undocumented traveler who lands in their airport from dubai and has no travel documents. That is why he was being deported to where he came from. He can only be released when he identifies himself by producing a valid travel document. Why are you asking me? Ask Mwangi Njoka, Dennis Itumbi et al. You have quoted Itumbi describing how one Miguna Miguna was even given special papers to sign. Don't forget the immigration department that was busy the whole day telling us how Miguna Miguna, the unidentified one, can enter the country. Hardwood, trust me on this one. Someone shall pay for this mess. Unfortunately you are dealing with someone who holds grudges and will sue the hell out of some people individually. You can't continously ignore court orders and expect support even from your most vocal supporters. They too know that when they come back to Kenya, some cross eyed immigration official shall say he's not Kenyan. Honga mimi na mia tano. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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murchr		#703 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:43:16 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		masukuma wrote: @murchr, @hardwood I am just saying it's a rather pointless fight that is heads you lose and tails you lose. Who loses when JKIA loses its status? And how many more should be allowed in? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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murchr		#704 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:45:09 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		masukuma wrote: it's a pissing contest with nothing to gain just something to lose! it's TUTAMUONYESHA NCHI IKO NA WENYEWE... ATAJUA HAJUI e.t.c. Ata yeye anasema hivyo. Sipeani hio passport lazima niingie na ID. Ngoja tuone "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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hardwood		#705 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:49:15 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		alma1 wrote: hardwood wrote: alma1 wrote: hardwood wrote: Bwahahaha. Govt now saying they can't enforce the court order to produce miguna in court tmr because they don't have a person my the name Joshua Miguna Miguna in their custody. They say they only have an undocumented male who arrived on an emirates flight and has no travel documents and therefore don't know who he is and there is no way to know who he is. It is amazing. You do know that an ID is not the only way to identify an undocumented person? The same officials were this morning tweeting that the same individual was called Miguna Miguna and they were sending papers for him to sign. Hardwood, kwa kweli. You are losing support even from people who don't like Miguna. Very quickly. Do the needful. Take him to court, prove he's not a citizen then deport him. It's that easy. Really shameful for Kenyans at large. How are authorities expected to identify an undocumented traveler who lands in their airport from dubai and has no travel documents. That is why he was being deported to where he came from. He can only be released when he identifies himself by producing a valid travel document. Why are you asking me? Ask Mwangi Njoka, Dennis Itumbi et al. You have quoted Itumbi describing how one Miguna Miguna was even given special papers to sign. Don't forget the immigration department that was busy the whole day telling us how Miguna Miguna, the unidentified one, can enter the country. Hardwood, trust me on this one. Someone shall pay for this mess. Unfortunately you are dealing with someone who holds grudges and will sue the hell out of some people individually. You can't continously ignore court orders and expect support even from your most vocal supporters. They too know that when they come back to Kenya, some cross eyed immigration official shall say he's not Kenyan. Honga mimi na mia tano. Even in an mpesa kiosk or bank you must produce a valid ID to identify yourself. The valid ID in international travel is a passport and must be produced to process the traveler. Therefore the undocumented person that is claiming to be miguna must produce a passport to identify himself, and for govt to process him.
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alma1		#706 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:52:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo		hardwood wrote: alma1 wrote: hardwood wrote: alma1 wrote: hardwood wrote: Bwahahaha. Govt now saying they can't enforce the court order to produce miguna in court tmr because they don't have a person my the name Joshua Miguna Miguna in their custody. They say they only have an undocumented male who arrived on an emirates flight and has no travel documents and therefore don't know who he is and there is no way to know who he is. It is amazing. You do know that an ID is not the only way to identify an undocumented person? The same officials were this morning tweeting that the same individual was called Miguna Miguna and they were sending papers for him to sign. Hardwood, kwa kweli. You are losing support even from people who don't like Miguna. Very quickly. Do the needful. Take him to court, prove he's not a citizen then deport him. It's that easy. Really shameful for Kenyans at large. How are authorities expected to identify an undocumented traveler who lands in their airport from dubai and has no travel documents. That is why he was being deported to where he came from. He can only be released when he identifies himself by producing a valid travel document. Why are you asking me? Ask Mwangi Njoka, Dennis Itumbi et al. You have quoted Itumbi describing how one Miguna Miguna was even given special papers to sign. Don't forget the immigration department that was busy the whole day telling us how Miguna Miguna, the unidentified one, can enter the country. Hardwood, trust me on this one. Someone shall pay for this mess. Unfortunately you are dealing with someone who holds grudges and will sue the hell out of some people individually. You can't continously ignore court orders and expect support even from your most vocal supporters. They too know that when they come back to Kenya, some cross eyed immigration official shall say he's not Kenyan. Honga mimi na mia tano. Even in an mpesa kiosk or bank you must produce a valid ID to identify yourself. The valid ID in international travel is a passport and must be produced to process the traveler. Therefore the undocumented person that is claiming to be miguna must produce a passport to identify himself, and for govt to process him. Najua mko job na murchr. For me, I have to go to sleep. I work for a living. Don't forget to tell us in the morning how many darts you used to remove a Kenyan from Kenya. For today, there comes a time when too many lies can cloud your dreams. Goodnight and goodluck. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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masukuma		#707 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:54:35 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		murchr wrote: masukuma wrote: it's a pissing contest with nothing to gain just something to lose! it's TUTAMUONYESHA NCHI IKO NA WENYEWE... ATAJUA HAJUI e.t.c. Ata yeye anasema hivyo. Sipeani hio passport lazima niingie na ID. Ngoja tuone google "kenyan politician sues for damages for detention" to see how things that are right on your face will come to bite you. this grandstanding in order to show who is boss will end up in court and he will sue and he will be awarded damages and it doesn't matter if Uhuru or the next guys government pays... THEY WILL PAY and when they do - I will resuscitate this thread and ask how the pissing contest went... and you know I will! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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hardwood		#708 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:56:53 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		murchr wrote: masukuma wrote: it's a pissing contest with nothing to gain just something to lose! it's TUTAMUONYESHA NCHI IKO NA WENYEWE... ATAJUA HAJUI e.t.c. Ata yeye anasema hivyo. Sipeani hio passport lazima niingie na ID. Ngoja tuone Yo have to pity migunas wife who has to deal with this kind of upuzi everyday.
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murchr		#709 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:57:49 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		masukuma wrote: murchr wrote: masukuma wrote: it's a pissing contest with nothing to gain just something to lose! it's TUTAMUONYESHA NCHI IKO NA WENYEWE... ATAJUA HAJUI e.t.c. Ata yeye anasema hivyo. Sipeani hio passport lazima niingie na ID. Ngoja tuone google "kenyan politician sues for damages for detention" to see how things that are right on your face will come to bite you. this grandstanding in order to show who is boss will end up in court and he will sue and he will be awarded damages and it doesn't matter if Uhuru or the next guys government pays... THEY WILL PAY and when they do - I will resuscitate this thread and ask how the pissing contest went... and you know I will! Kama koti ita weka damages for someone who has refused to follow the law, sawa you and me are paying. Pesa ni ya mkenya "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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hardwood		#710 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:03:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		masukuma wrote: murchr wrote: masukuma wrote: it's a pissing contest with nothing to gain just something to lose! it's TUTAMUONYESHA NCHI IKO NA WENYEWE... ATAJUA HAJUI e.t.c. Ata yeye anasema hivyo. Sipeani hio passport lazima niingie na ID. Ngoja tuone google "kenyan politician sues for damages for detention" to see how things that are right on your face will come to bite you. this grandstanding in order to show who is boss will end up in court and he will sue and he will be awarded damages and it doesn't matter if Uhuru or the next guys government pays... THEY WILL PAY and when they do - I will resuscitate this thread and ask how the pissing contest went... and you know I will! Nothing wrong with that. A govt must show it's teeth, and bite hard. It can always take care of the bills to treat the injuries after it has proven it's point.
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