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411 on dividend and AGM
MaichBlack
#1401 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2023 1:47:26 PM
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Equity ndani ndani ndani kabisa!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
cnn
#1402 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2023 8:50:19 AM
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BAT interim dividend,ksh 5...book closure 18th August.
VituVingiSana
#1403 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2023 3:15:24 PM
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cnn wrote:
BAT interim dividend,ksh 5...book closure 18th August.

Tough 1H given the macroeconomic drama.
Exports hit by drama in Sudan and exit from Egypt.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Angelica _ann
#1404 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2023 6:47:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
cnn wrote:
BAT interim dividend,ksh 5...book closure 18th August.

Tough 1H given the macroeconomic drama.
Exports hit by drama in Sudan and exit from Egypt.


BAT is just something else, trusted. Never shouts but always rewarding Applause Applause Applause
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
VituVingiSana
#1405 Posted : Friday, July 21, 2023 1:29:16 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cnn wrote:
BAT interim dividend,ksh 5...book closure 18th August.

Tough 1H given the macroeconomic drama.
Exports hit by drama in Sudan and exit from Egypt.


BAT is just something else, trusted. Never shouts but always rewarding Applause Applause Applause
2H expected to be better but Nabii may increase taxes on BAT products.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#1406 Posted : Saturday, July 22, 2023 2:46:27 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cnn wrote:
BAT interim dividend,ksh 5...book closure 18th August.

Tough 1H given the macroeconomic drama.
Exports hit by drama in Sudan and exit from Egypt.


BAT is just something else, trusted. Never shouts but always rewarding Applause Applause Applause
2H expected to be better but Nabii may increase taxes on BAT products.

BAT Kenya supplies Egypt?

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#1407 Posted : Sunday, July 23, 2023 6:06:54 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cnn wrote:
BAT interim dividend,ksh 5...book closure 18th August.

Tough 1H given the macroeconomic drama.
Exports hit by drama in Sudan and exit from Egypt.


BAT is just something else, trusted. Never shouts but always rewarding Applause Applause Applause
2H expected to be better but Nabii may increase taxes on BAT products.

BAT Kenya supplies Egypt?
BAT Kenya used to supply Cut Rag to BAT Egypt. BAT Egypt closed up.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
watesh
#1408 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2023 9:03:35 AM
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Umeme deposited last Friday
Angelica _ann
#1409 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2023 6:29:41 AM
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EABL halves dividend as profit falls to Sh12bn

board of directors have recommended a final dividend of Sh1.75 per share, adding to the interim payout of Sh3.75 per share, which brings the total to Sh5.5 per share.

This is 50 percent below the prior year’s distribution, which comprised an interim dividend of Sh3.75 per share and a final one of Sh7.25 per share for an aggregate of Sh11 per share.

https://www.businessdail...falls-to-sh12bn--4318446
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My 2 cents
#1410 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2023 9:43:48 AM
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Majority shareholders can sometimes be so self-serving.
In my assessment this may be Diageo's tactic to refill cash coffers after the share buybacks. Diageo might be ok with the dividend sacrifice but are the minority shareholders ok with it?

Or worse, the 20% drop in EABL's profitability, could be a gauge of our current economy and therefore a proxy for the extent of drops to be expected by other companies going forward.
littledove
#1411 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2023 10:12:24 AM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Majority shareholders can sometimes be so self-serving.
In my assessment this may be Diageo's tactic to refill cash coffers after the share buybacks. Diageo might be ok with the dividend sacrifice but are the minority shareholders ok with it?

Or worse, the 20% drop in EABL's profitability, could be a gauge of our current economy and therefore a proxy for the extent of drops to be expected by other companies going forward.


this government has shown a clear intention- of taxing where there is money, so expect many companies to start reporting lower earning going foward, see also centum.
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
watesh
#1412 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2023 1:03:13 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Majority shareholders can sometimes be so self-serving.
In my assessment this may be Diageo's tactic to refill cash coffers after the share buybacks. Diageo might be ok with the dividend sacrifice but are the minority shareholders ok with it?

Or worse, the 20% drop in EABL's profitability, could be a gauge of our current economy and therefore a proxy for the extent of drops to be expected by other companies going forward.


Look at EABL's cashflow. The cash from operations was just enough to pay the dividends that had been declared. They had to rely on proceeds from new loans to pay down an exisiting loan and invest in new facilities for the business.

A high dividend is unsustainable cashflowise
My 2 cents
#1413 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2023 3:56:56 PM
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watesh wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Majority shareholders can sometimes be so self-serving.
In my assessment this may be Diageo's tactic to refill cash coffers after the share buybacks. Diageo might be ok with the dividend sacrifice but are the minority shareholders ok with it?

Or worse, the 20% drop in EABL's profitability, could be a gauge of our current economy and therefore a proxy for the extent of drops to be expected by other companies going forward.


Look at EABL's cashflow. The cash from operations was just enough to pay the dividends that had been declared. They had to rely on proceeds from new loans to pay down an exisiting loan and invest in new facilities for the business.

A high dividend is unsustainable cashflowise


I have always been puzzled at EABL's dependency on debt given they have been in business for 100 years. At this stage in their life as a mature company, they should be able to finance growth organically with retained earnings. Yet ( much like a much younger company) they are always having to lean heavily into debt financing.
jawgey
#1414 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2023 1:58:23 PM
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NSE and Kenya-Re peanuts are well in!
Seeing is believing
Ericsson
#1415 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2023 2:57:25 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Majority shareholders can sometimes be so self-serving.
In my assessment this may be Diageo's tactic to refill cash coffers after the share buybacks. Diageo might be ok with the dividend sacrifice but are the minority shareholders ok with it?

Or worse, the 20% drop in EABL's profitability, could be a gauge of our current economy and therefore a proxy for the extent of drops to be expected by other companies going forward.


Diageo is benefitting through other means like interest on the shareholder loans advanced to EABL
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
jawgey
#1416 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2023 12:09:42 PM
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Safaricom final dividend ndani!
Seeing is believing
VituVingiSana
#1417 Posted : Monday, September 04, 2023 6:52:13 PM
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Has anyone received Williamson or Kapchorua divs?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Thornbird
#1418 Posted : Tuesday, September 05, 2023 6:18:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Has anyone received Williamson or Kapchorua divs?


Still waiting
VituVingiSana
#1419 Posted : Wednesday, September 06, 2023 9:19:33 AM
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Thornbird wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Has anyone received Williamson or Kapchorua divs?


Still waiting
Still nothing!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1420 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2023 10:05:14 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Thornbird wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Has anyone received Williamson or Kapchorua divs?


Still waiting
Still nothing!
This is rather uncharacteristic of them.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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