wazua Wed, Mar 18, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

136 Pages«<6970717273>»
KCB buy buy buy
Ebenyo
#701 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:16:29 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
obiero wrote:
11.5m KCB shares traded today


Someone taking position ahead of book closure.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
actuarywahisa
#702 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:22:21 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/21/2014
Posts: 184
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-pressure-Kenya-interest-rate-cap/539546-3890742-sc66p0z/index.html

@Ericsson i see your 53/- coming sooner than later

Its true though, the cartel thing as mentioned in the article


The cartel is behind 'The sky is faliing' stories.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Spikes
#703 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:44:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
actuarywahisa wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-pressure-Kenya-interest-rate-cap/539546-3890742-sc66p0z/index.html

@Ericsson i see your 53/- coming sooner than later

Its true though, the cartel thing as mentioned in the article


The cartel is behind 'The sky is faliing' stories.
Interest rate cap has two levels of cartels pulling in different directions.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Horton
#704 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 6:56:08 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
Spikes wrote:
actuarywahisa wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-pressure-Kenya-interest-rate-cap/539546-3890742-sc66p0z/index.html

@Ericsson i see your 53/- coming sooner than later

Its true though, the cartel thing as mentioned in the article


The cartel is behind 'The sky is faliing' stories.
Interest rate cap has two levels of cartels pulling in different directions.


"cartel" theory or other conspiracy theories ......there is still value here.......this stock should make a pretty penny when the market stops overreacting...

There is a difference between investors and speculators......historical data suggests investors have always come out on top. I forget....it was either Ben Graham or Warren Buffett who said the Stock market often acts was a popularity contest in the short term
obiero
#705 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:00:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
Horton wrote:
Spikes wrote:
actuarywahisa wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/IMF-pressure-Kenya-interest-rate-cap/539546-3890742-sc66p0z/index.html

@Ericsson i see your 53/- coming sooner than later

Its true though, the cartel thing as mentioned in the article


The cartel is behind 'The sky is faliing' stories.
Interest rate cap has two levels of cartels pulling in different directions.


"cartel" theory or other conspiracy theories ......there is still value here.......this stock should make a pretty penny when the market stops overreacting...

There is a difference between investors and speculators......historical data suggests investors have always come out on top. I forget....it was either Ben Graham or Warren Buffett who said the Stock market often acts was a popularity contest in the short term

I wont comment about the two said camps but I am certain that the economy is bleeding

KQ ABP 4.26
Ebenyo
#706 Posted : Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:27:24 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
FY 2016 total income-kshs 69,476,650,000

Expenditure-kshs 49,754,203,000 - 72%
Profit- kshs 19,722,447,000 -28%

How the profit will be used.
Dividends-9 billion-45%
Retained earnings-10.7 billion-55%

*A very healthy profit margin of 28% and a dividend payout of 45%
*The workforce which currently top the expenditure at kshs 17,719,037,000 should be treamed to boost profit.Kcb mtaani outlets and digital banking should be embraced instead.

Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#707 Posted : Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:18:16 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Ebenyo wrote:
FY 2016 total income-kshs 69,476,650,000

Expenditure-kshs 49,754,203,000 - 72%
Profit- kshs 19,722,447,000 -28%

How the profit will be used.
Dividends-9 billion-45%
Retained earnings-10.7 billion-55%

*A very healthy profit margin of 28% and a dividend payout of 45%
*The workforce which currently top the expenditure at kshs 17,719,037,000 should be treamed to boost profit.Kcb mtaani outlets and digital banking should be embraced instead.



No need to trim the workforce.
Instead the revenue should be increased/revenue per employee.
Currently we know that is being hindered by the interest rates cap law which has reduced the margins.
//I am of the opinion that you don't trim work force to increase income as that is short term and not sustainable.
Rather increase the revenue from your business activities
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#708 Posted : Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:15:31 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,344
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
FY 2016 total income-kshs 69,476,650,000

Expenditure-kshs 49,754,203,000 - 72%
Profit- kshs 19,722,447,000 -28%

How the profit will be used.
Dividends-9 billion-45%
Retained earnings-10.7 billion-55%

*A very healthy profit margin of 28% and a dividend payout of 45%
*The workforce which currently top the expenditure at kshs 17,719,037,000 should be treamed to boost profit.Kcb mtaani outlets and digital banking should be embraced instead.



No need to trim the workforce.
Instead the revenue should be increased/revenue per employee.
Currently we know that is being hindered by the interest rates cap law which has reduced the margins.
//I am of the opinion that you don't trim work force to increase income as that is short term and not sustainable.
Rather increase the revenue from your business activities


Both of you have a point. It makes sense to empower your employees to increase revenues per employee BUT there are some employees who might not want to or can easily make the move to the sales approach. Many tellers don't know how to cross-sell. Sales isn't easy. As KCB (or any bank) moves customers to other channels, some functions become redundant. Retraining isn't as easy as it sounds for those already in the system.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#709 Posted : Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:34:57 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
FY 2016 total income-kshs 69,476,650,000

Expenditure-kshs 49,754,203,000 - 72%
Profit- kshs 19,722,447,000 -28%

How the profit will be used.
Dividends-9 billion-45%
Retained earnings-10.7 billion-55%

*A very healthy profit margin of 28% and a dividend payout of 45%
*The workforce which currently top the expenditure at kshs 17,719,037,000 should be treamed to boost profit.Kcb mtaani outlets and digital banking should be embraced instead.



No need to trim the workforce.
Instead the revenue should be increased/revenue per employee.
Currently we know that is being hindered by the interest rates cap law which has reduced the margins.
//I am of the opinion that you don't trim work force to increase income as that is short term and not sustainable.
Rather increase the revenue from your business activities



@Ericson,dont worry about the interest cap.The results shows that it will be beaten in the long run:

*interest income grew from kshs 56383933000 to kshs 62806075000-11% increase
*Loan book grew from kshs 345968686000 to kshs 385745331000-11% increase
*Operating income grew from kshs 62616468000 to kshs 69476650000 11% increase

Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ebenyo
#710 Posted : Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:50:32 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
FY 2016 total income-kshs 69,476,650,000

Expenditure-kshs 49,754,203,000 - 72%
Profit- kshs 19,722,447,000 -28%

How the profit will be used.
Dividends-9 billion-45%
Retained earnings-10.7 billion-55%

*A very healthy profit margin of 28% and a dividend payout of 45%
*The workforce which currently top the expenditure at kshs 17,719,037,000 should be treamed to boost profit.Kcb mtaani outlets and digital banking should be embraced instead.



No need to trim the workforce.
Instead the revenue should be increased/revenue per employee.
Currently we know that is being hindered by the interest rates cap law which has reduced the margins.
//I am of the opinion that you don't trim work force to increase income as that is short term and not sustainable.
Rather increase the revenue from your business activities


Both of you have a point. It makes sense to empower your employees to increase revenues per employee BUT there are some employees who might not want to or can easily make the move to the sales approach. Many tellers don't know how to cross-sell. Sales isn't easy. As KCB (or any bank) moves customers to other channels, some functions become redundant. Retraining isn't as easy as it sounds for those already in the system.


@vvs,your point is right.This is my point of view.In 2015 the staff cost was kshs 15310898000.This shot up in 2016 by kshs 2,408,139,000 to ksh 17,719,037,000-15% increase.If it continues like that year on year,the profit margin will be thin.
During mtukufu rais moi reign,kcb workforce was bloated with ethnic numbers.I dont think whether the problem has been addresed.There are alot of old employees who should exit the bank to allow for a lean workforce.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
136 Pages«<6970717273>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.