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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Rankaz13 wrote:My attention is drawn to this provision:
All vehicles more than four years old from the recorded date of manufacture shall be subjected to inspection by the Motor Vehicle Inspection Unit (section 16(2)).
What are the implications? My friend's driver was recently accosted by cops over the same, the vehicle in question being a private car.  Asii!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/1/2008 Posts: 834
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xyzee wrote:what sort of proof is required for careless/reckless driving, obstruction, talking on the phone ........ etc?
And how do you prove in court that the cop is lying?
I've been a victim, I just pleaded guilty in court to avoid wasting time. What this means is that if you have a minor traffic infraction, especially if cars have collided, bruide, dented each other, please sort it out on one on one basis without the police if you can, especially if you are on the wrong and there are no injuries, these type of cases can quickly turn into 'careless driving' for the driver on the wrong as determined by the police..... happened to me once, luckily had a man on the inside who made it go away.... If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Your friend must be too mean,instead of giving the police chai or knowing how to talk he refuses.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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mawinder wrote:tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Your friend must be too mean,instead of giving the police chai or knowing how to talk he refuses. Agreed. Sometimes it 'pays' to talk nicely to the cops. Some time back i was arrested for making a wrong turn. I hadn't seen the cop only for me to be stopped 500m away by a cop on a motorbike. After kujitetea and seeking forgiveness failed i offered some chai and the issue was sorted. Now imagine if i had decided to accompany the cop to the station to pay bond, then use 1000 bob fuel to appear in court the following day, then be fined? I don't view it as corruption but as a form of a 'resolution mechanism' whereby i opted to be punished 'out of court' for the traffic offence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Your friend must be too mean,instead of giving the police chai or knowing how to talk he refuses. Agreed. Sometimes it 'pays' to talk nicely to the cops. Some time back i was arrested for making a wrong turn. I hadn't seen the cop only for me to be stopped 500m away by a cop on a motorbike. After kujitetea and seeking forgiveness failed i offered some chai and the issue was sorted. Now imagine if i had decided to accompany the cop to the station to pay bond, then use 1000 bob fuel to appear in court the following day, then be fined? I don't view it as corruption but as a form of a 'resolution mechanism' whereby i opted to be punished 'out of court' for the traffic offence. Please go back on wazua and edit all your posts complaining about corruption this corruption that. I'm sure China roads and bridges finds that its a sort of mechanism to build better roads. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Pole Tassia, How was your stay at the police station? The fine is a minimum of 20K and Max of 30K. Plan to spend a full day in the courts.Make sure you have someone to pay your fine coz you cant pay it by yourself or else you pay the policemen 2K to facilitate your fine penalty If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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mawinder wrote:tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Your friend must be too mean,instead of giving the police chai or knowing how to talk he refuses. . DRIVERS TO BE LICENSED
SECTION 30
No person shall drive a motor vehicle of any class on a road unless he is a holder of a valid driving licence or provisional licence, a breach of this will now lead to a fine n.ex Kenya Shillings twenty thousand (K.Shs 20,000/=) on a first conviction and Kenya Shillings thirty thousand (K.Shs 30,000/=)on each subsequent conviction. The imprisonment provisions for this offence remain the same namely on a first conviction you could receive a penalty of the above fine or three months imprisonment or on a subsequent offence you could receive the above penalty for subsequent offices or imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or both. SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF THE LAWS HERE.... http://www.africalegalne...Kenyas-Traffic-Laws.pdf
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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alma wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Your friend must be too mean,instead of giving the police chai or knowing how to talk he refuses. Agreed. Sometimes it 'pays' to talk nicely to the cops. Some time back i was arrested for making a wrong turn. I hadn't seen the cop only for me to be stopped 500m away by a cop on a motorbike. After kujitetea and seeking forgiveness failed i offered some chai and the issue was sorted. Now imagine if i had decided to accompany the cop to the station to pay bond, then use 1000 bob fuel to appear in court the following day, then be fined? I don't view it as corruption but as a form of a 'resolution mechanism' whereby i opted to be punished 'out of court' for the traffic offence. Please go back on wazua and edit all your posts complaining about corruption this corruption that. I'm sure China roads and bridges finds that its a sort of mechanism to build better roads. So you are saying that i should have opted to follow the law to the letter and spend the night in some smelly urine flooded police cell filled with murderers, rapists, pick pockets and other scum instead of going home to spend the night next to my lovely wife's warm bossom? And then i pay 20k fine and 3k car towing charges the following day? Anyway i decided to use my common sense and sorted the issue out of court with some 1k chai, which was also a form of punishment by a law enforcement officer.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/21/2011 Posts: 1,010
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jaggernaut wrote:alma wrote:jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:tassia wrote:Who knows the charge for driving while in possession of an expired driving license and what is the penalty. I friend of mine just realized his license was expired when he gave it to the cops. Driven to the police station to pay cash bail, told the person who receives cash bail had left and asked to leave the car plus the car keys. Requested to leave the car only and leave with the keys and finally locked up overnight for insisting not to leave the keys. Your friend must be too mean,instead of giving the police chai or knowing how to talk he refuses. Agreed. Sometimes it 'pays' to talk nicely to the cops. Some time back i was arrested for making a wrong turn. I hadn't seen the cop only for me to be stopped 500m away by a cop on a motorbike. After kujitetea and seeking forgiveness failed i offered some chai and the issue was sorted. Now imagine if i had decided to accompany the cop to the station to pay bond, then use 1000 bob fuel to appear in court the following day, then be fined? I don't view it as corruption but as a form of a 'resolution mechanism' whereby i opted to be punished 'out of court' for the traffic offence. Please go back on wazua and edit all your posts complaining about corruption this corruption that. I'm sure China roads and bridges finds that its a sort of mechanism to build better roads. So you are saying that i should have opted to follow the law to the letter and spend the night in some smelly urine flooded police cell filled with murderers, rapists, pick pockets and other scum instead of going home to spend the night next to my lovely wife's warm blossom? And then i pay 20k fine and 3k car towing charges the following day? Anyway i decided to use my common sense and sorted the issue out of court with some 1k chai, which was also a form of punishment by a law enforcement officer. @jaggernaut, u did the right thing, i have done it also and wouldn,t hesitate to do it if caught. even in the bible its allowed.... Quote:Matthew 5:25-26 (New International Version)
25 “Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26 Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
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