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hardwood wrote:Very nice.....  Whoever figured out Raila's new role is a genius. Why lie. Rao is happy, Uhuru is happy, and the political support necessary to unleash war on corruption is safely secured. Uhuru has nobody to blame if he goes slow on this war. Lifestyle audit alone is enough to send home at least 80% of his cabinet, PSs, parastatal CEOs and boards. If he cuts off the corruption taps, the campaign by his deputy for 2022 comes to an abrupt end. The irritating MPs who go to collect 100K every week from his deputy to go and sell the 2022 agenda will go quiet. ION, sports minister Achesa might be the guy who scored an own goal for WSR. Remember him telling Mudavadi and Oparanya to forget presidency since they can't raise 200B for the 2022 campaign ? That figure would make him the richest man in Kenya. And all acquired within a short 5 years.
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FRM2011 wrote:hardwood wrote:Very nice..... Whoever figured out Raila's new role is a genius. Why lie. Rao is happy, Uhuru is happy, and the political support necessary to unleash war on corruption is safely secured. Uhuru has nobody to blame if he goes slow on this war. Lifestyle audit alone is enough to send home at least 80% of his cabinet, PSs, parastatal CEOs and boards. If he cuts off the corruption taps, the campaign by his deputy for 2022 comes to an abrupt end. The irritating MPs who go to collect 100K every week from his deputy to go and sell the 2022 agenda will go quiet. ION, sports minister Achesa might be the guy who scored an own goal for WSR. Remember him telling Mudavadi and Oparanya to forget presidency since they can't raise 200B for the 2022 campaign ? That figure would make him the richest man in Kenya. And all acquired within a short 5 years. You seem to be the only one who doesn't see Barack Obama's hand in this  Kenyans are so blind, no wonder politicians play us "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kaka2za wrote:XSK wrote:kaka2za wrote:Something doesn't seem right.This crisis looks so perfect! This to me is choreographed deception.
The plan is to identify issues that may be used against WSR in 2022 and dispense with them now. This will ensure that they will be 'old news' in 2022.
UMK underwent similar process in 2002. He lost but Moi knew that his candidate was cleansed and would eventually win. Aren't you giving this people too much credit? I could be wrong but the crisis doesn't look natural . I have a video in which WSR lied to Kenyans without batting an eye lid.. He then recanted the earlier statements and I was sooo shocked. Had always assumed that some of the stories against him were exaggerated, but when he lied to my face, I got to know his character
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Ruto now says that "Hakuna deni". He says no one owes anyone any debt. https://www.the-star.co....ays-on-2022-bid_c1783801
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Currently on Ntv live interview with Mark Masai. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Whoever will outwit Ruto will need to be a Machiavellian genius. The way the man has transformed the Coast Brigade led by the likes of Aisha Jumwa and Kingi to his side is no mean feat. Looks like he is the reincarnation of the real baba. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Gathige wrote:Whoever will outwit Ruto will need to be a Machiavellian genius. The way the man has transformed the Coast Brigade led by the likes of Aisha Jumwa and Kingi to his side is no mean feat. Looks like he is the reincarnation of the real baba. . Bro its not genius here......pesa tu.
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[quote=hardwood]Ruto now says that "Hakuna deni". He says no one owes anyone any debt. https://www.the-star.co....ys-on-2022-bid_c1783801[/quote] Take that with a pinch of the salt. This was PR at it's best. What's the opinion of the foot soldiers?
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Rahatupu wrote:Gathige wrote:Whoever will outwit Ruto will need to be a Machiavellian genius. The way the man has transformed the Coast Brigade led by the likes of Aisha Jumwa and Kingi to his side is no mean feat. Looks like he is the reincarnation of the real baba. . Bro its not genius here......pesa tu. She has already done a u turn...genius my foot! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rahatupu wrote:Gathige wrote:Whoever will outwit Ruto will need to be a Machiavellian genius. The way the man has transformed the Coast Brigade led by the likes of Aisha Jumwa and Kingi to his side is no mean feat. Looks like he is the reincarnation of the real baba. . Bro its not genius here......pesa tu. Here is a guy who thinks money is everything. He even gives loads of cash to churches hoping to get a ticket to heaven.....what a waste!! 
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Njunge wrote:Rahatupu wrote:Gathige wrote:Whoever will outwit Ruto will need to be a Machiavellian genius. The way the man has transformed the Coast Brigade led by the likes of Aisha Jumwa and Kingi to his side is no mean feat. Looks like he is the reincarnation of the real baba. . Bro its not genius here......pesa tu. Here is a guy who thinks money is everything. He even gives loads of cash to churches hoping to get a ticket to heaven.....what a waste!! How many millions are those? Mpaka karatasi inapasuka. And the mshahara (gross) is 1.2m. Angalia looks of other govt officers vile wameshangaa. 
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Raila is going to take down Jubilee just like he took down Kanu!
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Rollout wrote:Raila is going to take down Jubilee just like he took down Kanu! Jubilee=KANU Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open. i.am.back!!!!
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harrydre wrote:Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open.
This thread is about UK and WSR. Baba ametoka wapi?! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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harrydre wrote:Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open.
Kikuyu wazees will give UK an ultimatum to support Ruto in 2022 or they will ditch him after his term. They have a debt and it must be paid back else they lose credibility with other communities. Kibaki broke his promise but I'm sure the clan will not allow UK to do the same for 2022. It will be impossible to form any alliance in the future if they break this pact. It's better to painfully keep their word and oust WSR in 2027 through new alliances if they must. Else GEMA will be divided like the mrembe nation.
BBI will solve it :)
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2012 wrote:harrydre wrote:Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open.
Kikuyu wazees will give UK an ultimatum to support Ruto in 2022 or they will ditch him after his term. They have a debt and it must be paid back else they lose credibility with other communities. Kibaki broke his promise but I'm sure the clan will not allow UK to do the same for 2022. It will be impossible to form any alliance in the future if they break this pact. It's better to painfully keep their word and oust WSR in 2027 through new alliances if they must. Else GEMA will be divided like the mrembe nation. The pact was with the Kalenjin....not necessarily WSR! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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kaka2za wrote:2012 wrote:harrydre wrote:Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open.
Kikuyu wazees will give UK an ultimatum to support Ruto in 2022 or they will ditch him after his term. They have a debt and it must be paid back else they lose credibility with other communities. Kibaki broke his promise but I'm sure the clan will not allow UK to do the same for 2022. It will be impossible to form any alliance in the future if they break this pact. It's better to painfully keep their word and oust WSR in 2027 through new alliances if they must. Else GEMA will be divided like the mrembe nation. The pact was with the Kalenjin....not necessarily WSR! Seriously, is democracy about pacts among tribes? Also if it is all about 2 tribes, what about the other 40 tribes? Maybe Ndii (PhD) was right that the other tribes should secede.
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hardwood wrote:kaka2za wrote:2012 wrote:harrydre wrote:Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open.
Kikuyu wazees will give UK an ultimatum to support Ruto in 2022 or they will ditch him after his term. They have a debt and it must be paid back else they lose credibility with other communities. Kibaki broke his promise but I'm sure the clan will not allow UK to do the same for 2022. It will be impossible to form any alliance in the future if they break this pact. It's better to painfully keep their word and oust WSR in 2027 through new alliances if they must. Else GEMA will be divided like the mrembe nation. The pact was with the Kalenjin....not necessarily WSR! Seriously, is democracy about pacts among tribes? Also if it is all about 2 tribes, what about the other 40 tribes? Politics is about pacts among interest groups. Other interest groups should learn politics.
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hardwood wrote:kaka2za wrote:2012 wrote:harrydre wrote:Baba vs WSR in 2022, WSR wins early in the morning when stations open.
Kikuyu wazees will give UK an ultimatum to support Ruto in 2022 or they will ditch him after his term. They have a debt and it must be paid back else they lose credibility with other communities. Kibaki broke his promise but I'm sure the clan will not allow UK to do the same for 2022. It will be impossible to form any alliance in the future if they break this pact. It's better to painfully keep their word and oust WSR in 2027 through new alliances if they must. Else GEMA will be divided like the mrembe nation. The pact was with the Kalenjin....not necessarily WSR! Seriously, is democracy about pacts among tribes? Also if it is all about 2 tribes, what about the other 40 tribes? Maybe Ndii (PhD) was right that the other tribes should secede. Kenyan politics is about tribes. Period. We cannot run away from it. Even if you secede, the bigger tribes within the seceded will rule the smaller and that's why the calls to secede died. Can you imagine Turkana with their oil secede with Luos and Lunjes? Fishing and cane farming would be history in favor of the black gold from the marginalized minority tribe.
BBI will solve it :)
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