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Child custody - married parents
urstill1
#61 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:53:10 AM
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githundi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
No man should interfere with the affairs of another man's home.

Depends on the community (ies) they come from.
If they are Kikuyus...I agree with you.
The baby belongs to the man the lady has married.


Difference in culture may be the reason behind different opinions among us here. Among the Kikuyu it is not uncommon to get men with official names such as Wa Wairimu, Wa Njeri, Wa Wanjiku and the likes. Based on @Hardwood's, @"Wa-ciku", @Bigchick and the likes comments that's quite telling. It will not come as a surprise if @Masukuma is of the same opinion. Unfortunately, huko western things are quite different. Ndiyo maana Obama bado anarudi nyumbani.

alma1
#62 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:00:46 AM
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washiku wrote:
That man needs 6 canes on his buttocks, plus a whole week of cleaning streets. Only such 'childish' punishment can drive some sense to his 'childish' brain.

There is more to bringing up a child than flashing cash around. Does he even care about that child really, or he is in this for his ego?

Taking that girl to a different school from the other kids, buying her expensive gadgets, cloths and whatever else just puts her into a collision course with the other kids. The kind of mental torture those other kids might put her through just because of such treatment would lender her mental status completely messed up and not even Makini or Riara would correct the damage.

You can imagine these kids deciding they wont talk or play with her simply because she is the special one(remember watoto ni watoto and such treatment is not far fetched. It even happens to real brothers and sisters, sembuse huyu wa 'nje'). The father-daughter visits going forward would mean he would be spending time wiping her tears as she narrates to him how she is hated by the other children. I wonder whether that would make him love her more.

Further, the mere reason of showing that girl she is more privileged/superior than/to the other kids is in itself immoral. That is not how to bring up kids. You should not implant 'classes' to such kids at their age. As much as humanly possible, children should know all kids are equal. They are supposed to be taught how to share whatever much or little they have, not to have mobile phones while their siblings cant afford them. This man is trying to sow seeds in her that he might live to regret.

One more fact is that as long us that girl is living a generally good/decent life, she is safer with the mother than with a step mother. Majority of children raised by step mothers will give hallowing stories of the kind of things they were taken through by their step mothers. Now why would this man want such a life for his daughter who he allegedly loves yet her real mum is still alive? Do you know how much many children would pay just to be with their mums regardless of how rich or poor their mums are?

Finally, the court is just a bigger torture for the kid. The easiest would be to sit down as adults and agree maturely how to handle the situation going forward, and he shouldn't go there with his big ego. Honestly, he is being done a favor. He has a right to see his child, but the child's mental well-being should be more superior a consideration that his mental well-being. I am sure he can handle not seeing the daughter every day easier than the girl can handle the kind of ridicule he is about to put her through.

Actually if he wants a kind of happy life for the girl, he may consider supporting her education in the school her current parents chose, as long us its decent. He might even consider going the extra mile and treating all the children when he decides to so that his daughter will never grow an evil ego like his. Kama ni nguo, si anunulie tu wote and his girl will be dressed decently as he wishes and the other kids will not feel left out. When they are of age and able to understand, they shall chose what to do with their lives. As much he has a right to his daughter, he should, as a parent, also consider what picture he will paint to the other children.

The other man also have a responsibility to protect the other children from 'ridicule' from this one girl. Imagine her bragging to them all the time the way their school is big, has this and that and they are there asking their dad why he takes the other girl to a different school and them to a bad school. How do you answer that as a man? How do you start explaining to the other kids that its the other dad who pays for the older girl, but me as your dad I cant afford what the other dad does. How can that even work. What kind of a family would survive that way. Its usually hard for a man to explain why he can't buy his kids what their neighbors have, imagine now explaining this situation to these dot.com kids.

Money should not be a substitute to common-sense.



Tell your friend to pin this somewhere in his house.

This is just the case the other family shall make in family court and they shall win.

I don't know why but I tend to agree with others on here that your "friend" has ulterior motives with this family.

There are a lot of divorcees in Kenya who have a mature relationship with their former partners. What he wants to do is toxic and only a judge high on weed will support him.

Asome yote ambayo washiku ameandika hapa and he saves it on his screen saver.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

tnai9
#63 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:21:54 AM
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These sentiments have been very informative. The guy is compromising and is aware his demands for custody may never see light immediately. His greatest problem is being denied access to his daughter. Further, the girl has been transferred secretly to another school and his worry is even if they left the country, he wouldn't know. I'd be worried too.

He had been seeing the girl regularly in school and there is a bond between them, and the daughter knows him as his real father, and knows the other as his step father. They are not in talking terms with the X's hubby, and the X lately has cut links. He now doesn't know the school the daughter is in and is investigating.

So immediately, the guy wants access to the daughter. He says one day he went to school and found the daughter with torn shoes, took her to a shop and bought her shoes. Later he learned the girl had to hide the shoes and had to put them on much later because it would bring issues btn her mum and the foster father. This he was told by the teacher to the girl. The girl is top performing and is a favorite of teachers. The whole issue is a mess because her former teacher knew a bit of these details.
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tnai9
#64 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:28:17 AM
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urstill1 wrote:
githundi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
No man should interfere with the affairs of another man's home.

Depends on the community (ies) they come from.
If they are Kikuyus...I agree with you.
The baby belongs to the man the lady has married.


Difference in culture may be the reason behind different opinions among us here. Among the Kikuyu it is not uncommon to get men with official names such as Wa Wairimu, Wa Njeri, Wa Wanjiku and the likes. Based on @Hardwood's, @"Wa-ciku", @Bigchick and the likes comments that's quite telling. It will not come as a surprise if @Masukuma is of the same opinion. Unfortunately, huko western things are quite different. Ndiyo maana Obama bado anarudi nyumbani.



The guy is lunje. I know a number of them who have many kids out of wedlock and they support all of them. I hear they never leave their kids, especially boys. They say lazima mtoto arudi ingo.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
alma1
#65 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:31:58 AM
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tnai9 wrote:
These sentiments have been very informative. The guy is compromising and is aware his demands for custody may never see light immediately. His greatest problem is being denied access to his daughter. Further, the girl has been transferred secretly to another school and his worry is even if they left the country, he wouldn't know. I'd be worried too.

He had been seeing the girl regularly in school and there is a bond between them, and the daughter knows him as his real father, and knows the other as his step father. They are not in talking terms with the X's hubby, and the X lately has cut links. He now doesn't know the school the daughter is in and is investigating.

So immediately, the guy wants access to the daughter. He says one day he went to school and found the daughter with torn shoes, took her to a shop and bought her shoes. Later he learned the girl had to hide the shoes and had to put them on much later because it would bring issues btn her mum and the foster father. This he was told by the teacher to the girl. The girl is top performing and is a favorite of teachers. The whole issue is a mess because her former teacher knew a bit of these details.


tnai I think your story is fake.

Or your friend is the weirdest parent in the world.

Even for those families that have the same parents, do you know what it means for only one child to get shoes and others don't?

Are you being serious?

In fact, if I were ever the judge in the case, I'd insist on visitations with an adult present. Clearly he's not an adult.

This is not a tribe issue. This is a parenting issue. Real men know their limits. Bullying your way into another man's house is out of limits whatever tribe you are.

eisshhh

he buys a phone, shoes, what next Kentucky Fried chicken every night?

He's lost that kid so let him suffer the consequences of his madharau.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#66 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:32:45 AM
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urstill1 wrote:
githundi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
No man should interfere with the affairs of another man's home.

Depends on the community (ies) they come from.
If they are Kikuyus...I agree with you.
The baby belongs to the man the lady has married.


Difference in culture may be the reason behind different opinions among us here. Among the Kikuyu it is not uncommon to get men with official names such as Wa Wairimu, Wa Njeri, Wa Wanjiku and the likes. Based on @Hardwood's, @"Wa-ciku", @Bigchick and the likes comments that's quite telling. It will not come as a surprise if @Masukuma is of the same opinion. Unfortunately, huko western things are quite different. Ndiyo maana Obama bado anarudi nyumbani.



I thought huko western when the X gets married to someone else, the woman does not go with the kids but the man remains with the kids who he raises alone (or with his sisters or mother) and if he remarries then raises with his new wife. So the kids will be raised by the dad and step mum. Which basically means that raising a kid is a father's job.
Swenani
#67 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:21:02 AM
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Mtoto ni wa baba hii ingine ni nyef nyef.A luhya man won't have such kind of challenges
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#68 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:23:55 AM
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@washiku,as a man you raise your kids and teach them your culture and history, a wafula can't sire a kid to be raised with Kimani's culture
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tnai9
#69 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:28:39 AM
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alma1 wrote:

Even for those families that have the same parents, do you know what it means for only one child to get shoes and others don't?
Are you being serious?
In fact, if I were ever the judge in the case, I'd insist on visitations with an adult present. Clearly he's not an adult.

This is not a tribe issue. This is a parenting issue. Real men know their limits. Bullying your way into another man's house is out of limits whatever tribe you are.
eisshhh
he buys a phone, shoes, what next Kentucky Fried chicken every night?
He's lost that kid so let him suffer the consequences of his madharau.


He bought shoes because he found the girl with torn shoes, toes/socks protruding. Can we look at this objectively..What would other people do in such a situation? I suppose it was for the comfort of the child and not necessarily to show off.

And the other family is also not poor, maybe just struggling a bit.

I think the biological father is getting a bit condemned too much


"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
tnai9
#70 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:51:09 AM
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hardwood wrote:

I thought huko western when the X gets married to someone else, the woman does not go with the kids but the man remains with the kids who he raises alone (or with his sisters or mother) and if he remarries then raises with his new wife. So the kids will be raised by the dad and step mum. Which basically means that raising a kid is a father's job.


This mostly happens for unemployed ladies who are unable to provide for the kids. This lady is employed and has never accepted to release the girl to the father, coz of special attachment. I understand she would put her current marriage on the line to have custody of her daughter.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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