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masukuma
#121 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 2:48:57 PM
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hardwood wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani PS Mangiti has been left alone kwa mataa ?

Hope Dr. Mailu is watching this. He Will be the next on that seat after we all exclaim how smart Dr. Muraguri is in a year's time.

Again I ask, why do you join govt if you are not thug ?


The PS is the accounting officer. The buck stops with him.

If we teach people never to sign for stuff "under instruction" bila trail we shall not have these things happening. A friend of mine is having problems coz he was instructed to give accreditation to to some stranger into a data center... halafu kikaumana Boss akamruka now the fellow is suspended under police investigation.
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alma1
#122 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 2:51:04 PM
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I'm learning quite a lot about these corruption cartels.

One thing I've learned is that they have no tribal affiliations.

When you work in gov't please have all your documentation in order

Don't sign shit for anyone, if you do, buy those micro cameras and recorders you can hide in your collar.

When they come for you, have your copies ready.

That session started acrimoniously but now they Mpigs just look confused and like people who've been lied to by their wives or husbands. Why didn't they interogate that Gethi fellow more?

Unlike Hardwood, mimi na mambo ya serekali na their contracts, siwesmek.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#123 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 2:52:03 PM
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madollar
#124 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 2:55:33 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani PS Mangiti has been left alone kwa mataa ?

Hope Dr. Mailu is watching this. He Will be the next on that seat after we all exclaim how smart Dr. Muraguri is in a year's time.

Again I ask, why do you join govt if you are not thug ?

Makes you wonder why she wants to become governor .The reality is lazima wanaume wakule.How will she handle those MCAs .
Kirinyaga county will be one interesting place to watch if she runs everything by the book.
Liv
#125 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 2:58:24 PM
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I am waiting to see how the media will report this..... I think the media was also corrupted given how they had reported about Waiguru.... Without facts.

I noted PAC Chair asking questions on issues that lack substance... Just to prove a point which does not hold water.

The government as an employer lost a good employee and a person of integrity in Waiguru.
hardwood
#126 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:02:28 PM
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Wow, at 5.50 she says the money moved from Kabura -----> Ben Gethi -----> Murkomen + Farouk Kibet. That Murkomen said money was for legal fees.
2012
#127 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:12:28 PM
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Liv wrote:
I am waiting to see how the media will report this..... I think the media was also corrupted given how they had reported about Waiguru.... Without facts.

I noted PAC Chair asking questions on issues that lack substance... Just to prove a point which does not hold water.

The government as an employer lost a good employee and a person of integrity in Waiguru.


If Waiguru is innocent then Mangiti is guilty. It's either or.

BBI will solve it
:)
hardwood
#128 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:14:17 PM
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Liv wrote:
I am waiting to see how the media will report this..... I think the media was also corrupted given how they had reported about Waiguru.... Without facts.

I noted PAC Chair asking questions on issues that lack substance... Just to prove a point which does not hold water.

The government as an employer lost a good employee and a person of integrity in Waiguru.


Waegoro started by saying that the NYS issue has been politicized and there are soo many lies being peddled regarding her. She said she will only focus on facts not what the committee would want to hear. The committee got lost when she focused on facts and facts alone.
Swenani
#129 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:15:03 PM
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alma1 wrote:
I'm learning quite a lot about these corruption cartels.

One thing I've learned is that they have no tribal affiliations.

When you work in gov't please have all your documentation in order

Don't sign shit for anyone, if you do, buy those micro cameras and recorders you can hide in your collar.

When they come for you, have your copies ready.

That session started acrimoniously but now they Mpigs just look confused and like people who've been lied to by their wives or husbands. Why didn't they interogate that Gethi fellow more?

Unlike Hardwood, mimi na mambo ya serekali na their contracts, siwesmek.


Not just in Govt, In everything you do, ensure you have proper documentation. In My line of business are three secrets and one principle
Secrets
1. Documentation
2. Documentation
3. Documentation

Principle
1. If it's not documented, it doesn't exist.

Even in marriage, you need to document everything, That's why when you piss off your wife, she will read her diary and start quoting the things you did in 1997, Things you can't remember coz women keep diaries of all the things you do including how many times you land and the volume of the semen your ejaculate

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
hardwood
#130 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:30:37 PM
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One thing i don't understand is if kabura, Gethi, Waeguru all made affidavits, why is the committee behaving as if affidavits by kabura and gethi are 100% true while they are questioning waegoros?
Impunity
#131 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:42:34 PM
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Swenani wrote:
alma1 wrote:
I'm learning quite a lot about these corruption cartels.

One thing I've learned is that they have no tribal affiliations.

When you work in gov't please have all your documentation in order

Don't sign shit for anyone, if you do, buy those micro cameras and recorders you can hide in your collar.

When they come for you, have your copies ready.

That session started acrimoniously but now they Mpigs just look confused and like people who've been lied to by their wives or husbands. Why didn't they interogate that Gethi fellow more?

Unlike Hardwood, mimi na mambo ya serekali na their contracts, siwesmek.


Not just in Govt, In everything you do, ensure you have proper documentation. In My line of business are three secrets and one principle
Secrets
1. Documentation
2. Documentation
3. Documentation

Principle
1. If it's not documented, it doesn't exist.

Even in marriage, you need to document everything, That's why when piss off your wife, she will read her diary and start quoting the things you did in 1997, Things you can't remember coz women keep diaries of all the things you do including how many times you land and the volume of the semen yoru ejaculate



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Fyatu
#132 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 4:15:37 PM
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hardwood wrote:


Wow, at 5.50 she says the money moved from Kabura -----> Ben Gethi -----> Murkomen + Farouk Kibet. That Murkomen said money was for legal fees.


Waiguru's fixers thought she will go down without a fight.....One thing i have learnt in my short life on earth is never underestimate a woman
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
hardwood
#133 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 4:22:21 PM
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From the grilling, it is apparent that this lady Waeguru is safi kama pamba.
murchr
#134 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 4:29:14 PM
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Am glad Wazuans are now seeing the light. Will those who were calling me names and I mean @alma apologize pronto. Dont be rushing to believe these makaratazi of kufunga nyama most of these writers never verify the gibberish they write.

Remember: He who pays the piper calls the tune
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Shak
#135 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:00:52 PM
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This mama is making a lot of sense
alma1
#136 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:14:07 PM
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murchr wrote:
Am glad Wazuans are now seeing the light. Will those who were calling me names and I mean @alma apologize pronto. Dont be rushing to believe these makaratazi of kufunga nyama most of these writers never verify the gibberish they write.

Remember: He who pays the piper calls the tune


You have to be specific about what I'm apologising for.

Did I say she stole? Nope and leave your documentation here.

Did I say she was responsible...Hell yeah!
Did I say she should be fired....Hell yeah!

And those things have not changed at all.

I know the words "hiyo sio kazi yangu" are common here but heck, responsibility is very important.

All I have seen today is someone producing evidence that she was not involved in the stealing. The theft that you murchr said did not happen.

In fact you should apologise.

It's very clear to me that she knew there was stealing and for 14 months at a minimum did nothing about it.

Now if you expect me to apologise for saying she should have been fired, utangoja sana.

If you have CS's who cannot know billions are being stolen in their dockets, what the hell do we have CS's for?

As for the thieves, let's hope they all turn on each other. This committee could be one of the best things to happen in Kenya. Let them show more.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#137 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:19:33 PM
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Mutahi ngunyi hiring issue has come up again at PAC. I thought Mutahi clarified the matter. Even waiguru has repeated again that she never hired Mutahi. She worked with Mutahi just like with any other person hired by govt.


enyands
#138 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:27:02 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
And from this kasfa Family bank is answerable too.

Kwanza what are the branch limits for that branch?How could they hold such cash fari fari in the branch.There was clear conspiracy here.



That's why munyiri former coop employee had to go.seems he is the one who authorised all these large funds transactions .

As I said before his PAC is just a gimmick. Once they get findings so what next ? Isn't it the court to decide their fate not PAC?

Also how corrupt proof are all these mpigs sitting there ? 200m can oil all their hands and dismiss it out of technicalities ,what will you guys do?demonstrate ? Hunger strike?
hardwood
#139 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:33:11 PM
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Committee praises and commends Waegoro for her good work as CS Devolution.
murchr
#140 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:39:00 PM
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alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Am glad Wazuans are now seeing the light. Will those who were calling me names and I mean @alma apologize pronto. Dont be rushing to believe these makaratazi of kufunga nyama most of these writers never verify the gibberish they write.

Remember: He who pays the piper calls the tune


You have to be specific about what I'm apologising for.

Did I say she stole? Nope and leave your documentation here.

Did I say she was responsible...Hell yeah!
Did I say she should be fired....Hell yeah!

And those things have not changed at all.

I know the words "hiyo sio kazi yangu" are common here but heck, responsibility is very important.

All I have seen today is someone producing evidence that she was not involved in the stealing. The theft that you murchr said did not happen.

In fact you should apologise.

It's very clear to me that she knew there was stealing and for 14 months at a minimum did nothing about it.

Now if you expect me to apologise for saying she should have been fired, utangoja sana.

If you have CS's who cannot know billions are being stolen in their dockets, what the hell do we have CS's for?

As for the thieves, let's hope they all turn on each other. This committee could be one of the best things to happen in Kenya. Let them show more.



alma1 wrote:



I'm the pawn here.

Work me up to a frenzy that URP is finishing Waiguru
Work me up to a frenzy that Waiguru is the thief because she's from that tribe.

Write an affidavit. Take pictures. Have press briefings.

In the meantime, no one is jail

Just another pawn in the politicians arsenal.

I choose to believe none of these people. I'm not their pawn.

Until I see someone jailed, I believe all of them knew what was going and either participated or kept quiet about it.

None of these are my choice of leaders.

If that is moaning, shauri yako. I value my sleep at 4am.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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