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Co-operative Bank fate.. discuss
maka
#61 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:39:28 AM
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meme wrote:
maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...



We missed that...
possunt quia posse videntur
bird_man
#62 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:13:22 AM
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meme wrote:
maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...


If you were earning 300K 15years ago i.e Yr.1999 you will end up with 1.5*15*300K-500K=6.7M-11.2M

I can assure you these guys have loans that are more than that sendoff amount (think mortgages,car & Sacco loans).Some invested while others bought BMWs & moved to rent in more upmarket areas. It cannot be easy.

I know one from KCB who got 10M, paid 3M Sacco loan & 5M mortgage.He was left with 2M. He is an old ex-banker,with 2 kids still in school.It would take quite sometime to get another job at that age.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
shrewdinvestor
#63 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:15:23 AM
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Glad I quit this institution early.I have become wiser and done more in one year than the time I spent working for them.However,generally this is one bank that is very stable due to the huge capital base available to it from Saccos.If they adopted an aggressive approach like that of Equity,they will be very far.That needs a visionary and I am afraid the current captain;with all due respect ought to relinquish his seat to some new blood.
meme
#64 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:24:46 AM
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bird_man wrote:
meme wrote:
maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...


If you were earning 300K 15years ago i.e Yr.1999 you will end up with 1.5*15*300K-500K=6.7M-11.2M

I can assure you these guys have loans that are more than that sendoff amount (think mortgages,car & Sacco loans).Some invested while others bought BMWs & moved to rent in more upmarket areas. It cannot be easy.

I know one from KCB who got 10M, paid 3M Sacco loan & 5M mortgage.He was left with 2M. He is an old ex-banker,with 2 kids still in school.It would take quite sometime to get another job at that age.

Patience. You cannot have a baby in one month by impregnating nine women....
meme
#65 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:26:22 AM
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bird_man wrote:
meme wrote:
maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...


If you were earning 300K 15years ago i.e Yr.1999 you will end up with 1.5*15*300K-500K=6.7M-11.2M

I can assure you these guys have loans that are more than that sendoff amount (think mortgages,car & Sacco loans).Some invested while others bought BMWs & moved to rent in more upmarket areas. It cannot be easy.

I know one from KCB who got 10M, paid 3M Sacco loan & 5M mortgage.He was left with 2M. He is an old ex-banker,with 2 kids still in school.It would take quite sometime to get another job at that age.

@maka. birdman read my mind.
exactly what I was thinking.
Remember this is a guy in his 40's. Its very sad.
Patience. You cannot have a baby in one month by impregnating nine women....
Boris Boyka
#66 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:34:29 AM
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meme wrote:
bird_man wrote:
meme wrote:
maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...


If you were earning 300K 15years ago i.e Yr.1999 you will end up with 1.5*15*300K-500K=6.7M-11.2M

I can assure you these guys have loans that are more than that sendoff amount (think mortgages,car & Sacco loans).Some invested while others bought BMWs & moved to rent in more upmarket areas. It cannot be easy.

I know one from KCB who got 10M, paid 3M Sacco loan & 5M mortgage.He was left with 2M. He is an old ex-banker,with 2 kids still in school.It would take quite sometime to get another job at that age.

@maka. birdman read my mind.
exactly what I was thinking.
Remember this is a guy in his 40's. Its very sad.

Rem a 40% loan offset. I there are those who have invested wisely and put their families in position. Your failure to utilize your salry well while on employment should not be an excuse and a burden to the employer. Live your level...if you didn't inherit anything then begin with basics.ukijifanya kutuonyesha usonko shauri yako. Ref retrenchment,those who re-org well an settled on whatever little are alive and doing well,those who complained & blamed gvt walikufa or live miserably. On your first salary just begin planning for retire/retrench/sacking/resign....compare such a send off package how many kenyans get such????very few. Usipojipanga mwenyewe utapangwa na dunia.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
MaichBlack
#67 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:13:09 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
meme wrote:
bird_man wrote:
meme wrote:
maka wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
The 160 managers have agross salary of 300-500k. most have worked for btwn 15-35yrs. computation is using the gross salary. A good number of employees were praying to be among the 160. it seems to be a blessing in disguise. surely si mbaya. RINK rafiki mfanyikazi wa ndani

They can't get a better deal anywhere on this planet...


If you were earning 300K 15years ago i.e Yr.1999 you will end up with 1.5*15*300K-500K=6.7M-11.2M

I can assure you these guys have loans that are more than that sendoff amount (think mortgages,car & Sacco loans).Some invested while others bought BMWs & moved to rent in more upmarket areas. It cannot be easy.

I know one from KCB who got 10M, paid 3M Sacco loan & 5M mortgage.He was left with 2M. He is an old ex-banker,with 2 kids still in school.It would take quite sometime to get another job at that age.

@maka. birdman read my mind.
exactly what I was thinking.
Remember this is a guy in his 40's. Its very sad.

Rem a 40% loan offset. I there are those who have invested wisely and put their families in position. Your failure to utilize your salry well while on employment should not be an excuse and a burden to the employer. Live your level...if you didn't inherit anything then begin with basics.ukijifanya kutuonyesha usonko shauri yako. Ref retrenchment,those who re-org well an settled on whatever little are alive and doing well,those who complained & blamed gvt walikufa or live miserably. On your first salary just begin planning for retire/retrench/sacking/resign....compare such a send off package how many kenyans get such????very few. Usipojipanga mwenyewe utapangwa na dunia.

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Tell them @Boris.

I even started a thread on the same some time back.

Here is the Link: Take your income as A SEED not AS FRUITS

Luckily enough most wazuans know this but we need to preach this gospel to our workmates, relatives, neighbours, friends etc. Anyone who means anything to you and is not following this simple logic.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
FRM2011
#68 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:52:49 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Losing a job of this status in a country crowded with unemployment is sooooo painful


What were they doing in those 15 years that they can't stand on their own. If they can't then they were just dead weight employees. Employment is modern day slavery


@mkonomtupu, you are spot on here. A friend working at coop with some serious side hustles had applied to be included in the list. He tells me there were about 40 such applicants. They were all declined.

Reason, the fact that a young guy in his late 30s or early 40s wants to quit employment tells your boss something. You are confident about yourself, you are self-driven and you definitely know you have valuable skills that you can monetize elsewhere. Its no coincidence that this group also happens to be the most productive. They work for the bank.

The rest are the dead weight who are 'employed' at the bank waiting for salo at the end of the month.
obiero
#69 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:45:43 PM
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@Boris Boyka.. U are on point

KQ ABP 4.26
Kalameni
#70 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:22:32 PM
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@boris nd @frm very true.bankers nd loans is the norm.
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