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The meaning of circumcision
Atalaku
#121 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:03:02 PM
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...Seen earlier today at JKIA heading to Kisumu for Luo Union vs Muhoroni Sugar game. He looks like @Wakayungi. Is the foreskin too heavy that you have to hold it with your left hand?
Atalaku
#122 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:07:50 PM
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I don't expect much chaos in today's march in Kisumu because there are lots of NGOs that have done wonderful work in sensitizing the communities on the need to have their men circumcised to combat HIV and AIDs. These NGOs have killed two birds with one stone...Preventing the spread of AIDs as well as making men become responsible. Kudos to these NGOs.
Boris Boyka
#123 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:25:42 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
I don't expect much chaos in today's march in Kisumu because there are lots of NGOs that have done wonderful work in sensitizing the communities on the need to have their men circumcised to combat HIV and AIDs. These NGOs have killed two birds with one stone...Preventing the spread of AIDs as well as making men become responsible. Kudos to these NGOs.

my take is ni wenyewe Kwa wenyewe Nyanza belt wakirusha mawe ni mwenzake atajibu mawe. But town may be chaotic for travellers.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
harrydre
#124 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:26:27 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
...Seen earlier today at JKIA heading to Kisumu for Luo Union vs Muhoroni Sugar game. He looks like @Wakayungi. Is the foreskin too heavy that you have to hold it with your left hand?



@magigi, relax now your point has been hammered home loud and clear.
i.am.back!!!!
Atalaku
#125 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:32:41 PM
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@Harrydre...Did you see @Wakayungi say that he stole a Holy Koran? A middle class man with children stealing from a hotel!
...I don't know what @Alphdoti will have to say about this...But is is terrible!
Ngong
#126 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 3:59:57 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
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I own a Koran too. A stolen copy, from a hotel in Uganda. (In mitigation I left them one of my favorite novels in return). I plan to read it from cover to cover (as I did the Bible once). It may help me to understand what all the hullabaloo re: Judeo-Christianity-Islam is about. After all they are just three siblings, just not getting along, as usual.

Hear hear hear. ..a fully grown up man steals Holy Koran from a hotel. And when I am telling you that an uncut man cant think you dispute. How can a man steal a Koran? When I needed a Koran I walked to a mosque in south c and asked the cleric for one. He gladly handed me one together with other materials to help me in understanding it. Now a kihii cant think like that. These uncut men will alwsys be destructive and for no reason at all. While walking from Imperial hotel in kampala through speke hotel, sheraton, mimosa courts, serena hotel to Garden City I counted about 3 mosques. You could have walked into one of those and asked for a Koran. If only you were circumcised you would have thought twice before steslkng. But the foreskin prevents you from thinking. You are still a child..doing childish things...
...you are the type who one would find all sorts of hotel towels in your house together with sleepers ( even those that dont look alike). Mwizi sugu...


It seems the advantages of the cut are outweighed by being uncut!
Impunity
#127 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 5:47:51 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
[quote

I own a Koran too. A stolen copy, from a hotel in Uganda. (In mitigation I left them one of my favorite novels in return). I plan to read it from cover to cover (as I did the Bible once). It may help me to understand what all the hullabaloo re: Judeo-Christianity-Islam is about. After all they are just three siblings, just not getting along, as usual.

Hear hear hear. ..a fully grown up man steals Holy Koran from a hotel. And when I am telling you that an uncut man cant think you dispute. How can a man steal a Koran? When I needed a Koran I walked to a mosque in south c and asked the cleric for one. He gladly handed me one together with other materials to help me in understanding it. Now a kihii cant think like that. These uncut men will alwsys be destructive and for no reason at all. While walking from Imperial hotel in kampala through speke hotel, sheraton, mimosa courts, serena hotel to Garden City I counted about 3 mosques. You could have walked into one of those and asked for a Koran. If only you were circumcised you would have thought twice before steslkng. But the foreskin prevents you from thinking. You are still a child..doing childish things...
...you are the type who one would find all sorts of hotel towels in your house together with sleepers ( even those that dont look alike). Mwizi sugu...


And to imagine that a while back @McReggae had held you in high regards...

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Impunity
#128 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 5:53:16 PM
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Ngong wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
[quote

I own a Koran too. A stolen copy, from a hotel in Uganda. (In mitigation I left them one of my favorite novels in return). I plan to read it from cover to cover (as I did the Bible once). It may help me to understand what all the hullabaloo re: Judeo-Christianity-Islam is about. After all they are just three siblings, just not getting along, as usual.

Hear hear hear. ..a fully grown up man steals Holy Koran from a hotel. And when I am telling you that an uncut man cant think you dispute. How can a man steal a Koran? When I needed a Koran I walked to a mosque in south c and asked the cleric for one. He gladly handed me one together with other materials to help me in understanding it. Now a kihii cant think like that. These uncut men will alwsys be destructive and for no reason at all. While walking from Imperial hotel in kampala through speke hotel, sheraton, mimosa courts, serena hotel to Garden City I counted about 3 mosques. You could have walked into one of those and asked for a Koran. If only you were circumcised you would have thought twice before steslkng. But the foreskin prevents you from thinking. You are still a child..doing childish things...
...you are the type who one would find all sorts of hotel towels in your house together with sleepers ( even those that dont look alike). Mwizi sugu...


It seems the advantages of the cut are outweighed by being uncut!


This is the chief representative of the cuts!
They cut the shaft n left the *ss-hole widened and loose...sh*t just fall out freely.
Jeeeso!!!!!!

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AlphDoti
#129 Posted : Saturday, November 01, 2014 10:28:36 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
@Harrydre...Did you see @Wakayungi say that he stole a Holy Koran? A middle class man with children stealing from a hotel!
...I don't know what @Alphdoti will have to say about this...But is is terrible!

If I speak from perspective of Islam, let me point out that all aspects of crimes and punishment have been put into consideration, but Islamic law takes into consideration the circumstances under which the crime is committed.

For example:
1. stealing due to severe hunger and poverty is not liable to have his hands cut off.
2. A person who has been coerced into stealing, will not be punished.
3. A wife taking from money from her mean husband to buy food for the children and her other needs, is not considered to committed sin.

Similarly, someone taking the Quran, with good intention of reading to gain knowledge would not be punished.

In fact, @Wakayungi would get rewards from God for striving to know truth!
kysse
#130 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 9:44:31 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Islamic law takes into consideration the circumstances under which the crime is committed.

For example:
1. stealing due to severe hunger and poverty is not liable to have his hands cut off.
2. A person who has been coerced into stealing, will not be punished.
3. A wife taking from money from her mean husband to buy food for the children and her other needs, is not considered to committed sin.

Similarly, someone taking the Quran, with good intention of reading to gain knowledge would not be punished.

In fact, @Wakayungi would get rewards from God for striving to know truth!


According to your religion, the end justifies the means? What a joke.
Even pagan laws don't justify crime.
AlphDoti
#131 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:05:13 AM
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kysse wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Islamic law takes into consideration the circumstances under which the crime is committed.

For example:
1. stealing due to severe hunger and poverty is not liable to have his hands cut off.
2. A person who has been coerced into stealing, will not be punished.
3. A wife taking from money from her mean husband to buy food for the children and her other needs, is not considered to committed sin.

Similarly, someone taking the Quran, with good intention of reading to gain knowledge would not be punished.

In fact, @Wakayungi would get rewards from God for striving to know truth!

According to your religion, the end justifies the means? What a joke.
Even pagan laws don't justify crime.

@kysse, you've not understood. Take your time and think dada. Every law considers the circumstances. I'm proud to tell you that Islam does not punish in certain circumstances!
AlphDoti
#132 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:07:01 AM
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kysse wrote:
According to your religion, the end justifies the means? What a joke.
Even pagan laws don't justify crime.

@kysse says she has never stolen her colleagues pen. If she had, she would be in jail right now Laughing out loudly

@kysse, please tell us which law punishes the below people:
1. If an insane person steals
2. If a person steals under duress, i.e. compelled to do so
3. If a person whose freedom is restricted steals, it cannot be called a theft.
4. If a person steals during times of famine or extreme hunger
5. If the the value of the stolen object is very small for example @kysse steals her coleagues biro pen (in Islam less than one-fourth misqal of pure gold)

Let me help you with the answer:
"Until recently, a general defence of necessity did not exist in English law." Shame on you

"Recently the courts have begun to show a willingness to allow the defence of necessity, or duress of circumstances.." Laughing out loudly

But in Islam, defense of necessity has always existed Applause
AlphDoti
#133 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 12:45:06 PM
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Circumcision = tayarisha = tahirisha = tahiri

Even a tree without brain shades its own skin, even a snake peels it's own skin...



Or else you remain a kid!


kysse
#134 Posted : Sunday, November 02, 2014 1:36:38 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
kysse wrote:
According to your religion, the end justifies the means? What a joke.
Even pagan laws don't justify crime.

@kysse says she has never stolen her colleagues pen. If she had, she would be in jail right now Laughing out loudly
Never,mimi mweupe kama pamba.

@kysse, please tell us which law punishes the below people:
1. If an insane person steals-Mathare law.What's an insane person doing roaming the streets freely?

2. If a person steals under duress, i.e. compelled to do so. Like the way terrorists subject people to duress to obtain a confession? In life and death matters,it should be excused.
3. If a person whose freedom is restricted steals, it cannot be called a theft. Child Yes,Adult No.Why the restricted movement for an adult?
4. If a person steals during times of famine or extreme hunger.This is life and death situation.
5. If the the value of the stolen object is very small for example @kysse steals her coleagues biro pen (in Islam less than one-fourth misqal of pure gold)
Theft is the act not item. The land grabber and the chicken thief both deserve punishment.


But in Islam, defense of necessity has always existed Applause


..And that is the root of evil

innairobi
#135 Posted : Monday, November 03, 2014 4:19:02 PM
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Majority of countries with the highest rates of circumcision are the poorest, most unstable and least developed nations in the world. Australia and the US are in red here but their rates are at 20-30% and declining.



There is a good chance that 90% of what we use today was invented by an uncircumcised person. The majority of companies we most aspire to work for are likely run by uncircumcised persons.

Heck, the original railway was built by likely built by uncircumcised Europeans/Indians and now the Standard Gauge Railway is going to be built by uncircumcised Chinese because heavily circumcised Africans are not equal to the task. Laughing out loudly

Africans need to take logic a little more seriously than religions and traditions that we did not even originate. Its our only salvation from continuing to be the laughing stock of the world.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
Atalaku
#136 Posted : Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:53:38 PM
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...While walking into my residence, I saw two dogs seriously copulating. They looked at me and vigorously continued with their mission.

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#137 Posted : Sunday, November 09, 2014 10:17:59 PM
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Ngong
#138 Posted : Sunday, November 09, 2014 10:18:51 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
...While walking into my residence, I saw two dogs seriously copulating. They looked at me and vigorously continued with their mission.



Hahaha! nesa!
Nomanoma
#139 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 12:23:14 PM
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Ngong wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
...While walking into my residence, I saw two dogs seriously copulating. They looked at me and vigorously continued with their mission.



Hahaha! nesa!

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XSK
#140 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2014 1:17:35 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
...While walking into my residence, I saw two dogs seriously copulating. They looked at me and vigorously continued with their mission.




Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @Magigi where do you leave?
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