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AU Addis summit - ICC mass walk out?
Mjasirii
#61 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:30:53 PM
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marko wrote:
Mjasirii wrote:
Applause
marko wrote:
kysse wrote:
marko wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kysse wrote:
There is a very loud and big fellow live on ntv.

You should know people!


Matsanga. Applause Applause Applause


I read about him here,Laughing out loudly fiery dude,jeeez!!
Taking on 3 people like that loool. Wapi oxygen masks.


You should see him with Jeff. One word. EPIC! One thing he is good at is research and he seems to know his stuff. He is good at it. Ok. He is a bit bullish but I like his style.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly NGOs


Did you see how Ms.Ndirangu got cowed when funding for NGOs came up? And tomorrow we have a rematch. Live on NTV. They should sell ringside tickets for this.


They should smile smile Who knows your NGO in Kenya ?
Gathige
#62 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:31:12 PM
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kysse wrote:
marko wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kysse wrote:
There is a very loud and big fellow live on ntv.

You should know people!

Matsanga. Applause Applause Applause


I read about him here,Laughing out loudly what a fiery fiery dude,jeeez!!
Taking on 3 people like that requires skill.

matsanga + miguna + atwoli + musau ndunda on live show = total shut down.

no breathing!Pray


@kysee, mind you Matsanga said he had not had his supper before the show. If he gets some millet ugali and well cooked tilapia before a show, the presenter can literally take cover. The man can loose his cool and punch someone.

Let's seems how he handles Madam Kamala of ICC tomoro.

"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Motomoto
#63 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:33:21 PM
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marko wrote:
Did you see how Ms.Ndirangu got cowed when funding for NGOs came up? And tomorrow we have a rematch. Live on NTV. They should sell ringside tickets for this.

That man.I think is not making things better for Uhrur and if I were Uhuru I would ask the "Pan Africanist' to go back to Europe!
Mr. Sulu
#64 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:23:16 AM
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Siringi wrote:
@poundfoolish and Mr sulu come here.

Click on the link below please read halafu come back the wiser.

Amores wrote:
maka wrote:
Lets pull out sina shida na hiyo @Amores

Not so fast @ maka. People should have a sober debate.Did you check the link?

LINK



My point is you need not feel inferior to whites!

When you talk of French influence and intervention in W Africa. I excuse you with the assumption that you probably did not read history beyond primo

Show me a stable ex French colony? Free from interference. Like President Moi used to say Mzungu hand maslahi ya mwafrika they think of us as monkeys and lesser mortals

For those with similar malaise I normally prescribe two books by my favourite panafricanists

Dr Kwameh Nkrumahs :The challenge of the Congo
The book is about the man below why he was killed and the curse of Africas riches


Patrice Lumumba was the first elected Prime Minister of the Congo. He ascended to power in the Congo on June 30, 1960, the date of Congo' s independence from Belgium. Within ten weeks of being elected, Lumumba's government was deposed in a coup. He was subsequently imprisoned and assassinated on January 17, 1961 by Western powers (United States, Belgium, France, England and the United Nations) in cahoots with local leaders such as Moise Tshombe and Joseph Desire Mobutu.

2. The classical first year Economic /development and government studies recommended tax Sir Walter Rodney's How Europe Underdeveloped Africa

===> get your copy here





There are many other free book versions of this classic. Let your fingers do the walking







@Siringi, you my friend are full of crap. Why do you say I probably did not study history beyond primo? I read the link and those are things I already knew. If you have facts just argue the facts without being condescending. You can blame the white man for your problems all day. As long as we have leaders like UK and WSR, we are going nowhere. Right now health facilities in the country have not been funded since the financial year started. These are facilities that depend on funds from donors. Services are almost grinding to a halt as they lack essential supplies. Free primary education has also had challenges as it is also donor funded. If we depend on the whites for essential services like health and education, HOW ARE WE INDEPENDENT?
Njung'e
#65 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:38:04 AM
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Mjasirii wrote:
Applause
marko wrote:
[quote=kysse][quote=marko][quote=Lolest!][quote=kysse]



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly NGOs


NGO = Nothing Going On.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
segemia
#66 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:56:32 AM
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Mr. Sulu wrote:

@Siringi, you my friend are full of crap. Why do you say I probably did not study history beyond primo? I read the link and those are things I already knew. If you have facts just argue the facts without being condescending. You can blame the white man for your problems all day. As long as we have leaders like UK and WSR, we are going nowhere. Right now health facilities in the country have not been funded since the financial year started. These are facilities that depend on funds from donors. Services are almost grinding to a halt as they lack essential supplies. Free primary education has also had challenges as it is also donor funded. If we depend on the whites for essential services like health and education, HOW ARE WE INDEPENDENT?


@ Sulu, Have you ever heard of "mtegemea za nduguye hufa maskini"???

Are you therefore suggesting that we continue extending our arms with a bowl on our hands begging????
kingfisher
#67 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 9:02:50 AM
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where does @Mr.Sulu come from???? He REALLY makes me sick!!!!
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
TAZ
#68 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 9:41:43 AM
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Siringi
#69 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 9:56:20 AM
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@Mr Sulu you read and did not see how the French have been eff*ng Africa? from the tiny Islands of Mayotte throught DRC ro Cote D'voire etc...

Your goggles sijui ni aina ganiSad
Take time and read the book i forwarded in the link

As for more facts come here and read

Europe masters behind the ICC

Excerpts:-

Europe, Masters Behind The ICC
The power of the ICC remains with its big four funders: Germany, Britain, France, and Italy. They dominate the Court, they make the running and the decisions: It is their Court, just as to all intents and purposes they dominate the EU

In the ICC Assembly of States Parties, the EU again plays a pivotal role as the largest player and biggest funder. The Israeli researcher, Seth Frantzman, says: “The Court is primarily European-run. Yet those it judges are not from Europe; they are usually [taken] from their home countries and shipped to Europe to sit in a European prison… This is at best an unfair system and at worst a colonialist one.”

The EU used the revised Cotonou Agreement which entered into force in 2002 to coerce African states to sign and ratify the ICC Rome Statute. The consequences of an ACP state not ratifying all of the Cotonou Agreement, including the ICC clauses embedded in it, were clear: That country would lose hundreds of millions of euros in “development” aid.

From 2002 onwards, the EU funded a further 21 pro-ICC NGO projects to the value of more than €17m. Much of this funding went to international ratification campaigns for the ICC. In addition to financially sustaining the ICC, the EU also dominates the ICC by way of employees, especially at executive level. As of 30 April 2009, European states provided 59.6% of the ICC’s employees (the “target” had been set at 47%).

The 2009 report of the 8th Session of the ICC’s Assembly of States Parties demonstrates the extent to which the professional staff of the ICC is top-heavy with Europeans and Westerners. Out of 294 professionals, 147 come from Europe, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US (perhaps surprisingly given that their country has not ratified the Rome Statute).

France accounts for 47 members of staff alone, the UK and Germany 19 each. Of the top D-1 grade, Europe contributes five staff members out of 7 and Africa 1. Within the next grade down, P-5, Europe accounts for 14, the US 1 and Africa 6 staff members.

When it comes to the P-4 grade, Europe has 36 out of 55 positions, USA 3, and Africa 4. This was 2009, since then an African, Fatou Bensouda of The Gambia, has been promoted to become the next chief prosecutor of the ICC when Moreno-Ocampo’s term ends in June this year. What qualitative change that will bring to the ICC’s relationship with Africa is yet to be seen.
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Siringi
#70 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 10:02:34 AM
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TAZ wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/kenya/10376302/Kenyan-president-Kenyattas-war-crimes-trial-set-to-be-suspended.html


So our Presso is a War Criminal ?Sad Sad Sad
Sawa tu God is watching Shame on you Shame on you
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