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Rankaz13
#121 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:00:09 PM
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mukiha wrote:
@alma; the assumption that the public has sympathy with teachers is false. Public is angry that our kids are not going to school.. we want teachers back in class pronto!

For the avoidance of doubt, I do NOT support the teachers...and I have kids in public school.


Depends on what you do. If you ask the small trader in the village for whom the teacher is his most important client/customer, your guess is as good as mine on where his/her loyalties lie.
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jguru
#122 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:18:12 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
mukiha wrote:
@alma; the assumption that the public has sympathy with teachers is false. Public is angry that our kids are not going to school.. we want teachers back in class pronto!

For the avoidance of doubt, I do NOT support the teachers...and I have kids in public school.


Depends on what you do. If you ask the small trader in the village for whom the teacher is his most important client/customer, your guess is as good as mine on where his/her loyalties lie.


Or a financial institution like a Bank or Sacco. If they default on their loans...

The entity that has let all Kenyans down is SRC. I wonder what that commission does all day! By now they should have tabled the provisional/amended salaries for teachers, policemen, nurses, doctors and other civil servants who form the bulk public service.

Let those estimates be discussed early in public fora and amendments made. This public wage bill will cripple us.

Trust me, this is not the last strike that teachers and/or public servants will have. Until public salaries are "harmonised" labour strikes will be persistent and common.
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alma
#123 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:23:11 PM
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@mukiha never underestimate the power of headmaster in gichagi.

If he says that Uhuru is refusing to add for him 5k so that Ruto can get a 100 million carpet, those parents you are talking about will be on the streets with the teachers.

The more info the teachers give out, the more people can see what the gov't is trying to do. The longer the kids are at home, the less the gov't is liked.

This is a simple thing. Give them their dues. But I guess laptops have become a pet project for some and they are willing to hang their first 100 days on them.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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#124 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:51:25 PM
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jguru wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
mukiha wrote:
@alma; the assumption that the public has sympathy with teachers is false. Public is angry that our kids are not going to school.. we want teachers back in class pronto!

For the avoidance of doubt, I do NOT support the teachers...and I have kids in public school.


Depends on what you do. If you ask the small trader in the village for whom the teacher is his most important client/customer, your guess is as good as mine on where his/her loyalties lie.


Or a financial institution like a Bank or Sacco. If they default on their loans...

The entity that has let all Kenyans down is SRC. I wonder what that commission does all day! By now they should have tabled the provisional/amended salaries for teachers, policemen, nurses, doctors and other civil servants who form the bulk public service.

Let those estimates be discussed early in public fora and amendments made. This public wage bill will cripple us.

Trust me, this is not the last strike that teachers and/or public servants will have. Until public salaries are "harmonised" labour strikes will be persistent and common.
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Well said, but for a long time when the public talks of public servants, its always at the very top level, MPs, PS, Directors,... Doctors, teachers, police are not mentioned. the SRC took cue and started "harmonization from top" now the middle and bottom cannot hold.
Rahatupu
#125 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:53:06 PM
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jguru wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
mukiha wrote:
@alma; the assumption that the public has sympathy with teachers is false. Public is angry that our kids are not going to school.. we want teachers back in class pronto!

For the avoidance of doubt, I do NOT support the teachers...and I have kids in public school.


Depends on what you do. If you ask the small trader in the village for whom the teacher is his most important client/customer, your guess is as good as mine on where his/her loyalties lie.


Or a financial institution like a Bank or Sacco. If they default on their loans...

The entity that has let all Kenyans down is SRC. I wonder what that commission does all day! By now they should have tabled the provisional/amended salaries for teachers, policemen, nurses, doctors and other civil servants who form the bulk public service.

Let those estimates be discussed early in public fora and amendments made. This public wage bill will cripple us.

Trust me, this is not the last strike that teachers and/or public servants will have. Until public salaries are "harmonised" labour strikes will be persistent and common.
.

Well said, but for a long time when the public talks of public servants, its always at the very top level, MPs, PS, Directors,... Doctors, teachers, police are not mentioned. the SRC took cue and started "harmonization from top" now the middle and bottom cannot hold.
washiku
#126 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:05:05 PM
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alma wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong murchr but I think the KNut realised that with the coming of SRC they needed to get their contracts done with. There is that particular piece of legislature that even the media wants to avoid.

Any collective agreements not complete by June 30th were to be null and void. So they made sure they were on strike before then to ensure that the gov't stops delaying as usual and implements ALL their agreements.

I have to say, KNUT are bright chaps.


Now that the June 30th passed, and it was not implemented, what will happen?
murchr
#127 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:26:46 PM
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TEACHERS’ UNION #Kuppet suspends strike for two weeks to allow negotiations with Govt starting tomorrow. NATION
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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McReggae
#128 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 7:54:38 PM
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murchr wrote:
TEACHERS’ UNION #Kuppet suspends strike for two weeks to allow negotiations with Govt starting tomorrow. NATION


Kuppet were never part of the 1996 deal....thet have 20K members compared to KNUT more than 200K......let's see how this turns out!!!....by the way Sossion was a high school teacher......leads KNUT!!!!
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McReggae
#129 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:06:41 PM
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They are not insisting on the lap tops for nothing!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nakujua
#130 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:45:28 PM
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the traditional publisher is a dying breed, just like the fixed line telephone - there are several rural schools experimenting with kindles
McReggae
#131 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:59:21 PM
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nakujua wrote:

the traditional publisher is a dying breed, just like the fixed line telephone - there are several rural schools experimenting with kindles


I might have taken several schools but when you say rural ones then I think you are lost, just yapping away unless you can give me examples from different counties!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
maka
#132 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:07:20 PM
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McReggae wrote:
murchr wrote:
TEACHERS’ UNION #Kuppet suspends strike for two weeks to allow negotiations with Govt starting tomorrow. NATION


Kuppet were never part of the 1996 deal....thet have 20K members compared to KNUT more than 200K......let's see how this turns out!!!....by the way Sossion was a high school teacher......leads KNUT!!!!

KUPPET is nothing kabisa...
possunt quia posse videntur
murchr
#133 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:08:18 PM
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McReggae wrote:
nakujua wrote:

the traditional publisher is a dying breed, just like the fixed line telephone - there are several rural schools experimenting with kindles


I might have taken several schools but when you say rural ones then I think you are lost, just yapping away unless you can give me examples from different counties!!!!!



http://thekilgorisprojec...electronic-reading.html

Hio ni kilgoris kuna ingine pokot
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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McReggae
#134 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:18:17 PM
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Boss do you know of what several rural schools should mean????

Don't confuse it with a few isolated schools!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nakujua
#135 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:26:21 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Boss do you know of what several rural schools should mean????

Don't confuse it with a few isolated schools!!!

ndio baba, you are right - I am very sorry for what I said. Hope you find it in your combative heart to forgive me
McReggae
#136 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:29:11 PM
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nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Boss do you know of what several rural schools should mean????

Don't confuse it with a few isolated schools!!!

ndio baba, you are right - I am very sorry for what I said. Hope you find it in your combative heart to forgive me


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Eti combative heart, I see no problem pointing out when you just wanna throw words about!!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
washiku
#137 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:36:03 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Boss do you know of what several rural schools should mean????

Don't confuse it with a few isolated schools!!!


So according to you several means how many?
nakujua
#138 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:37:34 PM
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McReggae wrote:
nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Boss do you know of what several rural schools should mean????

Don't confuse it with a few isolated schools!!!

ndio baba, you are right - I am very sorry for what I said. Hope you find it in your combative heart to forgive me


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Eti combative heart, I see no problem pointing out when you just wanna throw words about!!!!!!

you are right I am throwing words around - I am very sorry for wasting your time correcting my grave errors - I don't know what several rural schools mean, I should have said a few isolated schools.
murchr
#139 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:53:22 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Boss do you know of what several rural schools should mean????

Don't confuse it with a few isolated schools!!!


Unataka ngapi ndio ikuwe several



Anyway as someone has said the text-book industry is going down...ever wondered why there was an IPO?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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McReggae
#140 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:58:49 PM
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So I should define several simply coz somebody insinuates that less than 5 primary schools in Kenya should mean the same, guys by any definition of several even 5 in a division would not qualify as several.
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