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tycho
#61
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Friday, September 22, 2017 12:19:15 PM
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@Kusadikika, do you notice the wazees?
https://www.theguardian....north-korea-missile-test
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hardwood
#62
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Friday, September 22, 2017 1:38:01 PM
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Tokyo
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Friday, September 22, 2017 1:44:06 PM
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hardwood wrote:
A barking spoilt old He dog
work to prosper
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Angelica _ann
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Friday, September 22, 2017 1:52:52 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
hardwood wrote:
A barking spoilt old He dog
Too much talk no action ..............
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later
- H Geneen
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hardwood
#65
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Friday, September 22, 2017 2:11:27 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
hardwood wrote:
A barking spoilt old He dog
Too much talk no action ..............
Kim Jong Un has hit back at Trump calling him a mad dog. We are living in interesting times.
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Dahatre
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Friday, September 22, 2017 5:14:46 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Some context in this saga. Kim Jong Un is the Chairman of the Workers Party of Korea and one of the 5 members of the Politburo Standing Committee. He is the supreme leader but he has 4 other guys who form part of the highest leadership body. There is a structure here and people who talk of Kim Jong Un as if he is a lone warrior will miss the significance of his actions.
Kim Jong Un is 33 years old. The other members of the Standing Committee are ages 89, 78, 77 and 67. Kim Jong Un could very well be the grandchild of the other Politburo Committee members. The 89 year old guy, his name is Kim Yong-nam is President of the Supreme Peoples Assembly and was the Foreign affairs Minister for 15 years for both Kim Jong Un's father Kim Jong Il and his Guka Kim Il Sung. Its actually interesting that he became Foreign Affairs Minister the year Kim Jong Un was born. All the other guys were all at one time of the other in Kims father or grandfathers government.
Korea had been occupied (colonised) by the Japanese for 35 years from 1910 to 1945 and the Japanese were very brutal to the Koreans. During the Korean War it is said not a single building was left standing in North Korea by the time Americans were done bombing it. About 2 million people died.
Muarmar Gadafi was sweet talked by the Americans until he gave up development of Nuclear Weapons. They at one time made him believe that he was their friend. North Korea had also entered into a disarmament program and from 1994 to 2003 was actually complying. I even remember watching on TV demolitions of Nuclear power plants. Other countries that also gave up their programs include South Africa. In 2002 president Bush used the term Axis of evil to describe North Korea, Iran and Iraq but there was a bigger group that included Libya, Cuba and Syria that would all be treated as enemies.
The wazees of North Korea have seen all this stuff and have come to the conclusion that they do not have a friend in the world. Do not trust anybody. Build yourself up to where you can defend yourself and then you deal with the outside world as equals. Kim Jong Un is actually being very rational.
Great summary of why the little country has checkmated the BIG bad wolf. Plus South Korea stays being a good big brother:
South Korea approves $8m aid package for North Korea
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Kusadikika
#67
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Friday, September 22, 2017 7:48:42 PM
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I think the next big step for North Korea is the detonation of a Nuclear or Hydrogen Bomb in the Pacific like they are reporting. Ideally if they can carry the bomb on one of their ICBMs then they will have proved to everyone that they not only have the bomb but that they can deliver it. At this point the West will have to accept that North Korea is a Nuclear power and learn to live with it the way they learnt to live with China, India and Pakistan.
But because of all the uchokozi they have been subjected to North Korea will not stop there. Remember their main target is reunification so the next thing will be to instigate the South Koreans to kick out the US troops based in South Korea. With increasing public pressure the US may leave but South Korea will insist that they get Nuclear weapons as well to protect themselves. If South Korea gets nuclear weapons then Japan must also have Nuclear weapons. The technological capabilities of South Korea and Japan are such that they can develop nuclear weapons very quickly so in a matter of months of very few years they can be ahead of North Korea. South Korea and North Korea both share a common hatred of Japan from the time they had been colonised by Japan. If Japan develops a nuclear weapon the Koreans will more seriously consider reunification for strength.......
If Korea and Japan go nuclear then Iran will want one as well and if Iran gets it you can be sure Saudi Arabia will want one as well.
I do not see how we will go another 30 years without a nuclear war. So far the world has done very well, it has only been 72 years since a nuclear weapon was used in war. If we go 100 (2045) years we will have done really really well.
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muandiwambeu
#68
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Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:11:16 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
I think the next big step for North Korea is the detonation of a Nuclear or Hydrogen Bomb in the Pacific like they are reporting. Ideally if they can carry the bomb on one of their ICBMs then they will have proved to everyone that they not only have the bomb but that they can deliver it. At this point the West will have to accept that North Korea is a Nuclear power and learn to live with it the way they learnt to live with China, India and Pakistan.
But because of all the uchokozi they have been subjected to North Korea will not stop there. Remember their main target is reunification so the next thing will be to instigate the South Koreans to kick out the US troops based in South Korea. With increasing public pressure the US may leave but South Korea will insist that they get Nuclear weapons as well to protect themselves. If South Korea gets nuclear weapons then Japan must also have Nuclear weapons. The technological capabilities of South Korea and Japan are such that they can develop nuclear weapons very quickly so in a matter of months of very few years they can be ahead of North Korea. South Korea and North Korea both share a common hatred of Japan from the time they had been colonised by Japan. If Japan develops a nuclear weapon the Koreans will more seriously consider reunification for strength.......
If Korea and Japan go nuclear then Iran will want one as well and if Iran gets it you can be sure Saudi Arabia will want one as well.
I do not see how we will go another 30 years without a nuclear war. So far the world has done very well, it has only been 72 years since a nuclear weapon was used in war. If we go 100 (2045) years we will have done really really well.
Nukes is going to be a game changer. Am doing myself a bunker to ensure i see through the D-day atleast before i have a comprehensive plan of where to move to.
. I believe that the MCAs should by now be regislating that every develpment plan should include a nuclear safe bunker amongest the basic requirements before it is consider for approval as a matter of public interest. Do we have bunker experts/ specialists in wazua. How do i keep the fallout away from my safety if at all i will not be at ground zero
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Kusadikika
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Tuesday, September 26, 2017 1:49:19 PM
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You don't mess with the Supreme Leader in North Korea. This is more entertaining than any fiction. Kim Jong Un hapendi ujinga even from his own brother.
Two women had the most audacious task. Killing the brother of the North Korean leader. Right out in the open, using deadly chemical weapons in an international airport. And the craziest thing? They had no idea what they'd gotten into.
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murchr
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Saturday, February 03, 2018 5:05:46 PM
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Can Mozambique exist with sanctions?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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