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KQ orderd to reinstate sacked workers!!!
dunkang
#61 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:51:39 AM
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Jamani wrote:
I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts?


@jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts.

Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear.
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Impunity
#62 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:04:46 AM
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dunkang wrote:
Jamani wrote:
I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts?


@jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts.

Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear.


You had to bring UK into this, hope someone will not bring OAR too!

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dunkang
#63 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:20:30 AM
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Impunity wrote:
dunkang wrote:

@jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts.

Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear.


You had to bring UK into this, hope someone will not bring OAR too!


So, @Impunity, which politician is been refered to by @drobos that he manipulated the court?
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Jamani
#64 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:20:46 AM
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dunkang wrote:
Jamani wrote:
I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts?


@jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts.

Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear.


I just placed facts as they are and @KG post #60 (please read in pg3) has put it so well, the issue is not political interference but a wrong way in approaching the retrenchment exercise.
maka
#65 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:18:13 AM
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@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read
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Elder
#66 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:37:04 AM
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maka wrote:
@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read

Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.com
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youcan'tstopusnow
#67 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:28:51 PM
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Na the much earlier KK cases will be decided when? Or they not as politically sensitive as KQ...
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Pesa Nane
#68 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:30:58 PM
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maka wrote:
@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read

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maka
#69 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:31:28 PM
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Elder wrote:
maka wrote:
@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read

Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.com

Nimetuma...
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Pesa Nane
#70 Posted : Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:47:37 PM
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Elder wrote:

Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.com

Your email has been added to Wazua googlegroups and an invite sent to your email address.
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