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In the footsteps of Felicien Kabuga
McReggae
#121 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:20:10 AM
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dossy7 wrote:
murchr wrote:
PETER RAKWACH, the ex-military doctor linked to the Rwandese fugitive Felician Kabuga dies at a Nairobi hospital. - NTV


He must have taken one for the team


..the moment your name appears in that clip and you are still alive, you might be a walking corpse!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
abdulrahman
#122 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:17:49 AM
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McReggae wrote:
dossy7 wrote:
murchr wrote:
PETER RAKWACH, the ex-military doctor linked to the Rwandese fugitive Felician Kabuga dies at a Nairobi hospital. - NTV


He must have taken one for the team


..the moment your name appears in that clip and you are still alive, you might be a walking corpse!!!!


Unless you are being auditioned for some research or u have come up with an innovation, always avoid the media however good the journalist they may please u.
What people dont know is that Journalist like JAN and Moha are making ends meet and I bet they get loads of cash to do that only to approach poor citizens for info which would incriminates them.

I find it weird for the guys to hide the victims face forgeting the voice is still same and guys out there connect.Poor Victims !!

I now feer for the Surunei's (the infantry soldier) relative who was the cornerstone of this investigations. While JAN may get an assylum from some embassies, what of the poor Eldoret guy who is struggling to make ends meet.
MrTyrus
#123 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:45:48 AM
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I still dont get it how someone with such a huge bounty on his head and loads of wealth that has kept him protected for all those years only needs less than Kes 500K of liquid cash to move and willing to make shoddy deals of this amount that almost exposed him.
After following jicho pevu's investigations, this JAN story wasnt satisfactory at all
essyk
#124 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:07:53 AM
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harrydre wrote:

The long arm of Kabuga...hata hapa wazua atafika tu! watch out!

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kollabo
#125 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:22:42 AM
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Tebes wrote:
254.co.ke wrote:
The story if true is chilling to the core but the investigative piece cannot go unchallenged for some reasons.
>>>For a fact, in the year 2000, there was no Ministry of State for Defence (MOSD, some letters bears the name.
>>>The same letters are signed on behalf of PS,MOSD...again no substantive PS back then.

Too many questions and inconsistencies on the alleged letters alone???? On that front of inciting and dragging the KDF name, to me is is a big fail.


Again Christopher (named as relative to Seroney) does not speak the Kenyan accent of Swahili , infact his can be that of a Rwandese.

Secondly Seroney was recruited in 1996 (according to the clip) at 36 years of age??? His 2007 payslip reads 47yrs, and on probation. He also had a suspect cap, similar to those of an AP. d'oh!


You must have been watching something else boss. In footage shown on NTV, this guy's face was blurred and his voice muffled to protect his identity. Rwandese accent? .....figment of fertile imagination.
quicksand
#126 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:22:55 AM
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What I know for sure is that the management at NMG know that a story built from strange incidents, fly-by-night characters and things whispered in dark corners makes a good mystery, certain to keep eyes glued to the station, with stories tangent-ing off the expose and selling even more newspapers.
Kenyans love a saga.
I doubt the materials and information produced wouldn stand in a proper investigation - still, the govt is not blameless because stuff doesn't add up and police are not offering plausible explanations. In absence of believable facts, paranoia and distrust replace the truth - whatever the truth is.
McReggae
#127 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:32:14 AM
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If Kabuga, accused of the death of over 800,000 civilians can be protected by the kenyan government, to what length can they then go towards protecting the O4......accused of the death of 1300 civilians!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Tebes
#128 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:37:17 AM
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kollabo wrote:
Tebes wrote:
254.co.ke wrote:
The story if true is chilling to the core .


Again Christopher (named as relative to Seroney) does not speak the Kenyan accent of Swahili , infact his can be that of a Rwandese.

. d'oh!

You must have been watching something else boss. In footage shown on NTV, this guy's face was blurred and his voice muffled to protect his identity. Rwandese accent? .....figment of fertile imagination.


Download the footage from youtube, use YOUTUBE DOWNLOADER app, and listen to it again. I stand by it, muffled or not, its NOT. Shame on you
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selah
#129 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:53:33 AM
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Everybody knows that investigative pieces by the media serves several purposes they don't necessarily mean everything is factual. They sometimes act as stimuli prodding a mystery to see what comes out.

In this case, the story has several facts i.e Munuhes family has highlighted an inconsistency in police reports that they fed us,that Munuhe died peacefully from Carbon monoxide poisoning.While in actual fact he was murdered and the scene of crime was full of blood and the body disfigured beyond recognition.

The other fact is that the Kabuga family has been collecting rental income from properties in Kenya until recently when bad publicity made the AG issue an order stopping any further transaction from the said properties.

So even if we dispute the pictures and the witnesses the fact remains Kabuga has been enjoying state protection and JAN report is not far fetched.

'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Foreman
#130 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:13:04 PM
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selah wrote:
Everybody knows that investigative pieces by the media serves several purposes they don't necessarily mean everything is factual. They sometimes act as stimuli prodding a mystery to see what comes out.

In this case, the story has several facts i.e Munuhes family has highlighted an inconsistency in police reports that they fed us,that Munuhe died peacefully from Carbon monoxide poisoning.While in actual fact he was murdered and the scene of crime was full of blood and the body disfigured beyond recognition.

The other fact is that the Kabuga family has been collecting rental income from properties in Kenya until recently when bad publicity made the AG issue an order stopping any further transaction from the said properties.

So even if we dispute the pictures and the witnesses the fact remains Kabuga has been enjoying state protection and JAN report is not far fetched.


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ralp_mutu
#131 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:38:56 PM
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It has just got twisted KDF has served Media Council, Nation Media and Allan Namu with protest letter. Kabuga story was nothing but malice.
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McReggae
#132 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:45:05 PM
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ralp_mutu wrote:
It has just got twisted KDF has served Media Council, Nation Media and Allan Namu with protest letter. Kabuga story was nothing but malice.


Was expected!!!
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masukuma
#133 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:20:25 PM
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Felicien Kabuga Fake surfaces!!
http://www.youtube.com/w...bedded&v=oSgWwgR5Gpg
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murchr
#134 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:36:56 PM
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[quote=masukuma]Felicien Kabuga Fake surfaces!!
http://www.youtube.com/w...edded&v=oSgWwgR5Gpg[/quote]

Just look at his hair in the NTV clip.....anyone noticing the white hair? In this clip the man's hair is black, so has the owner of the hse in Msa spoken
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maka
#135 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:09:43 PM
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Whose foolong who sasa...this thing has many twists and turns
possunt quia posse videntur
essyk
#136 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:14:20 PM
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Mutheee Ngeera??? Laughing out loudly
KTN is happily broadcasting the news.
Muthee emerges with his family wearing a similar shirt to the one in JAN's clip.

At this rate lol one mombasa politician had better watch out cz he resembles Muthee who resembles Kabuga.Laughing out loudly .
All kenyans who resemble this guy watokelezee.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
maka
#137 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31:24 PM
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...Money can get you so many things including so many look alikes.JAN must be under the cosh
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Kusadikika
#138 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:12:45 PM
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This is unbelievable!!!!!!! Wa wa wa wa!!!!!!! Can you imagine being Mr. Muthee and seeing your picture on TV as Kabuga??! Worse still can you imagine members of his family watching and seeing their dad portrayed as a mass murderer? Something went terribly wrong, John Allan Namu was thoroughly duped and he fell for it hook line and sinker. The so called NSIS agent John is the real author of this drama. Could he be working for the real Kabuga??!! And the plot thickens further ati Seroney does not exist so what do we make of that friend of his from shags with the pictures????? Oh my God!!!! Si editors are supposed to at least corroborate a story before it runs on air. Yenyewe, in Kenya we don't need any fiction or movies, the reality is so intriguing and so much more fun. If that Muthee guy has good lawyers just sell your NMG shares now if you have any because he will make them pay big time!!
essyk
#139 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:22:39 PM
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My wife collapsed when she saw my photograph on TV and papers alleging I am Kabuga and asked why I had been lying to her all along,” said Ngeera.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Now these kenya dramas will kill me.
I wonder how a powerful clip can suddenly make your wife believe she married a fugitive.

Seriously kuna katabia very unique I have noticed among kenyans.
Our dramas are in a class of their own and they always occur consecutively.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
maka
#140 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2012 12:18:11 AM
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The best place to hide something is where everyone can see it,what if the Ngeera guy is the real kabuga nobody has offered to investigate that angle they just brought him for a press conference and he denied and that's it...the resemblance indeed is there and with the money you can anything from a fake family etc
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