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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Lolest! wrote:Magigi wrote:plunged our country into chaos. Let him Rest In Peace on that chair as he gets proper treatment! Lies told in Kenyan history: 1. Mau Mau drove the white man out of Kenya. 2. Disputed elections led to the chaos in 2007/2008 -We all know ODM's strongest pillar was hatred. 41 vs 1. Their supporters had seized properties belonging to Kibaki's tribesmen whom ODM propaganda had painted as beneficiaries of govt funding through Equity Bank. Blaming Kivuitu is scapegoating!! But he was partly to blame tho yawa! Thieves
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2011 Posts: 482 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Magigi wrote:plunged our country into chaos. Let him Rest In Peace on that chair as he gets proper treatment! Lies told in Kenyan history: 1. Mau Mau drove the white man out of Kenya. 2. Disputed elections led to the chaos in 2007/2008 -We all know ODM's strongest pillar was hatred. 41 vs 1. Their supporters had seized properties belonging to Kibaki's tribesmen whom ODM propaganda had painted as beneficiaries of govt funding through Equity Bank. Blaming Kivuitu is scapegoating!! Theories of he was just a pawn. Please, he allowed himself to be. If all was not well. didn't he have a choice to quit?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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mukiha wrote:Once all of us emotional wrecks have gone away, and our grand children start digging up the history, I think they will declare him a hero for agreeing to become the scapegoat... both sides cheated senseless; nobody could have stopped it. After all the mess; it required some one of Kivuitus character to accept the blame and give the country a chance to move on.
Kibaki supporters believe that Raila started the stealing. Raila supporters believe that Kibaki started it. But the two camps prefer to heap the blame on Kivuitu... it is easier that way. And Kivuitu has chosen not to engage in shouting march with politicians...for the sake of the nation. Nonsense, if both sides cheated then he shouldn't have called it for one side. He dropped the ball big time and thats probably whats killing him. I have no sympathy for him. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:mukiha wrote:Once all of us emotional wrecks have gone away, and our grand . Nonsense, if both sides cheated then he shouldn't have called it for one side. He dropped the ball big time and thats probably whats killing him more than anything else. Kuwa mpole.... "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Manyala wrote:Lolest! wrote:Magigi wrote:plunged our country into chaos. Let him Rest In Peace on that chair as he gets proper treatment! Lies told in Kenyan history: 1. Mau Mau drove the white man out of Kenya. 2. Disputed elections led to the chaos in 2007/2008 -We all know ODM's strongest pillar was hatred. 41 vs 1. Their supporters had seized properties belonging to Kibaki's tribesmen whom ODM propaganda had painted as beneficiaries of govt funding through Equity Bank. Blaming Kivuitu is scapegoating!! Theories of he was just a pawn. Please, he allowed himself to be. If all was not well. didn't he have a choice to quit? where did I say he was a pawn? I lay the blame squarely on Orange Hse and the one man who could have stopped the violence- Raila Amolo Odinga.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:mukiha wrote:Once all of us emotional wrecks have gone away, and our grand children start digging up the history, I think they will declare him a hero for agreeing to become the scapegoat... both sides cheated senseless; nobody could have stopped it. After all the mess; it required some one of Kivuitus character to accept the blame and give the country a chance to move on.
Kibaki supporters believe that Raila started the stealing. Raila supporters believe that Kibaki started it. But the two camps prefer to heap the blame on Kivuitu... it is easier that way. And Kivuitu has chosen not to engage in shouting march with politicians...for the sake of the nation. Nonsense, if both sides cheated then he shouldn't have called it for one side. He dropped the ball big time and thats probably whats killing him. I have no sympathy for him. ...tell the teacher that once more...
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2011 Posts: 482 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Manyala wrote:Lolest! wrote:Magigi wrote:plunged our country into chaos. Let him Rest In Peace on that chair as he gets proper treatment! Lies told in Kenyan history: 1. Mau Mau drove the white man out of Kenya. 2. Disputed elections led to the chaos in 2007/2008 -We all know ODM's strongest pillar was hatred. 41 vs 1. Their supporters had seized properties belonging to Kibaki's tribesmen whom ODM propaganda had painted as beneficiaries of govt funding through Equity Bank. Blaming Kivuitu is scapegoating!! Theories of he was just a pawn. Please, he allowed himself to be. If all was not well. didn't he have a choice to quit? where did I say he was a pawn? I lay the blame squarely on Orange Hse and the one man who could have stopped the violence- Raila Amolo Odinga. Kivuitu should have stopped it by stating that both parties were involved in rigging; in view of this he should have declared he is unable to verify who the true winner was and washed his hands from it. If things were not going as expected, why state it the go ahead and the go ahead and declare one the winner. Or is it a question of who rigged less? Please, please don't give this man, RAO, too much credit. What do you mean he is the only man who could have stopped the violence? Who powerful is this man, surely?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Manyala wrote:
Kivuitu should have stopped it by stating that both parties were involved in rigging; in view of this he should have declared he is unable to verify who the true winner was and washed his hands from it. If things were not going as expected, why state it the go ahead and the go ahead and declare one the winner. Or is it a question of who rigged less?
Pause to think what would have happened! Watu wangechinjana chinji chinji. Regardless of what happened, there was going to be chaos courtesy of the hate campaign which peaked btwn 2005-2007.
Please, please don't give this man, RAO, too much credit. What do you mean he is the only man who could have stopped the violence? Who powerful is this man, surely?
He was. No Raila No Peace goons would have listened to him if he had urged them to be peaceful. Wiper supporters were not engaging in rape, killings and arson, were they?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2011 Posts: 482 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Manyala wrote:
Kivuitu should have stopped it by stating that both parties were involved in rigging; in view of this he should have declared he is unable to verify who the true winner was and washed his hands from it. If things were not going as expected, why state it the go ahead and the go ahead and declare one the winner. Or is it a question of who rigged less?
Pause to think what would have happened! Watu wangechinjana chinji chinji. Regardless of what happened, there was going to be chaos courtesy of the hate campaign which peaked btwn 2005-2007.
Please, please don't give this man, RAO, too much credit. What do you mean he is the only man who could have stopped the violence? Who powerful is this man, surely?
He was. No Raila No Peace goons would have listened to him if he had urged them to be peaceful. Wiper supporters were not engaging in rape, killings and arson, were they?
Question is did he do a good job and if he knew of the challenges he should have quit; period. It is called integrity. Again let me say this, you make RAO soo powerful, that what ever he wishes for goes. so if he say, 'No Raila No Peace'; it goes. No authority to challenge that and ensure peace prevails. Spare me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Kifaki f@#$ed up in constituting the ECK, he did worse than Moi who accented to the 1997 IPPG agreement....this was the actual cause of the violence, Kifaki stuffed his men in ECK to steal the elections!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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