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Kenya Versus Al Shabaab
Jaina
#121 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:46:14 AM
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The Cost of this War will be Heavy in the Short term for the Kenyan Economy. However here are some insights from Economist's and F. Analysts alike.

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/k8u4mk/-/index.html

For the long-term survival of the Kenyan Enonomy, to end the shabab menace, i am getting convinced that a price has to be paid.

YesuWangu
#122 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:35:44 AM
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In all this excitement we forgot to inquire about the African Union opinion.

So, what is the AU opinion about this?


Arent they going to condemn invasion of yet another African country? smile
ballistic
#123 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:57:25 AM
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YesuWangu wrote:
In all this excitement we forgot to inquire about the African Union opinion.

So, what is the AU opinion about this?


Arent they going to condemn invasion of yet another African country? smile


AU opinion is irrelevant here (as always is). When your house catches fire you dont ask for other peoples' opinion..you confront the fire before it spreads......
callaspade
#124 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:17:21 AM
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...this attack is long overdue.

.....they have been spoiling for a fight for a long time.
.....lets get over and done with this insects! no mercy on them.we will deal with the consequences later.
Sigiriri
#125 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:00:12 AM
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bwenyenye wrote:
Me thinks there is a 2012 angle to this one. I think the aliens need to be sent packing like yesterday otherwise we may have 4M voters in 2012 given the rate at which our idiot brothers a immigration are selling the Kenyan ID card.


Mr. Bwenyenye - I couldn't agree more. Let Kenya take action now. This is our chance to correct the anomaly that led to a year delay in releasing our census results while the namba of walalos was 'adjusted'.

Let action start with the idiotic Kenyans selling our nationality at the imig dept. Wanauza uraia wetu!! they are betraying their country and should be hang by the neck until dead! Wafuate hao watu wanauzia uraia - for them though no virgins waiting - just gnashing of teeth!

My prayers are with the Kenya army. May we triumph over the enemy (alsabab)
KulaRaha
#126 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:07:03 AM
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YesuWangu wrote:
In all this excitement we forgot to inquire about the African Union opinion.

So, what is the AU opinion about this?


Arent they going to condemn invasion of yet another African country? smile


Hahahahahaha

Do you think anyone on this planet gives a toss about the AU?

They're probably in receivership anyways given their main financier is hiding in a hole in the Libyan desert getting plastic surgery!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Obi 1 Kanobi
#127 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:40:58 AM
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I am really loving our aggression, I am very impressed with the degree of planning and execution that has gone into operation "Linda Nchi". The clinical nature of the operation has taken many doubters led by me by surprise.

This war is likely to take awhile and could run aground at some point, but the most important thing is our start has been fantastic. Based on this start, I am confident the planners have thought through the entire war, identified objectives and planned an exit strategy. Is it true we neutralised 75 enemy combatants? (sorry but I have to use the american sanitized language). I also heard some of our assets (read soldiers) are already at the port of Kismayu working with TFG forces to prepare for our next target.

It is in our interest to not only pacify the Al Shaabab but also to clear off the Indian Ocean trade route, I believe should we succeed especially with the later, every nation on earth will pose to take notice.

Otherwise wiping out Al shabab is not too shabby a goal.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
bwenyenye
#128 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:53:28 AM
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I also think that the government should stop all media houses from airing this story as this will definitely lead to a lot of misreporting that will have bad effects. I think it was wrong fro them to fly journalists out to the war. There should be ONE source of information regarding the war. And that is the ARMY spokesman. Let us remember that war always has an element of propaganda. A case in point is where the bomb at Mogadishu. Some media houses insist that it was during the meeting while other say it was after!! These guys just want to create panic or what?
I Think Therefore I Am
Njung'e
#129 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:15:35 AM
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This is one soldier i like and his words ever so reassuring.Go Kenya go.

Military Spokesman Emmanuel Chirchir'

"The next target is to capture Kismayu. There is no retreat nor surrender until it falls under our control,"
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
2012
#130 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:25:54 AM
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Don't forget the other angle, the one where we make a lot of $$ in funding from the US for fighting terrorism especially in Somali where they failed miserably. I can already see the Kshs. back at 78 to the $ soon.

BBI will solve it
:)
Obi 1 Kanobi
#131 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:22:18 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:
I also think that the government should stop all media houses from airing this story as this will definitely lead to a lot of misreporting that will have bad effects. I think it was wrong fro them to fly journalists out to the war. There should be ONE source of information regarding the war. And that is the ARMY spokesman. Let us remember that war always has an element of propaganda. A case in point is where the bomb at Mogadishu. Some media houses insist that it was during the meeting while other say it was after!! These guys just want to create panic or what?


I disagree with you, I hate when information is given in small convinient doses, let us all know whats happening via the media. Media houses that chose to report the wrong or unsubstantiated information bargain their reputations down and eventually lose out. I am very pleased with the Military's openess throughout this operation.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
McReggae
#132 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:28:08 PM
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The kifnapped french woman is dead!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
youcan'tstopusnow
#133 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:35:43 PM
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Kenya at war, but Kibaki goes MIA
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/11gubxoz/-/index.html
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Ondiek
#134 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:37:36 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
This is one soldier i like and his words ever so reassuring.Go Kenya go.

Military Spokesman Emmanuel Chirchir'

"The next target is to capture Kismayu. There is no retreat nor surrender until it falls under our control,"


Capturing Kismayu would be a great milestone.
youcan'tstopusnow
#135 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:38:37 PM
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McReggae wrote:
The kifnapped french woman is dead!!!!

http://bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15365469
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
youcan'tstopusnow
#136 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:47:07 PM
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Govt to weed out Shabaab sympathisers in “the mother of all operations in Nairobi”.
http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/nvftjsz/-/index.html
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
mlefu
#137 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:51:53 PM
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Away match..... Al Shabaab Versus Kenya...leave nothing walking/breathing otherwise the return leg would be..God forbid

I dread for a scene like "black hawk down"
Tisched
#138 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:53:54 PM
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I hope the military has an exit strategy because with the economy not being stable getting stuck in Somalia could place us in a tight spot economically. I also pray the troops over there know what they are doing,fighting al shabaab wont be as easy as people tend to think. sure at first we will have them on the run, its the IED's and guerrilla tactics we should be scared of, people running at you with a bomb strapped to their chest, car bombs...hope we get out before dung hits the fan.

In my opinion, construction of a 700KM fence and patrols is a much safer and cheaper option(in the long run)than sending our troops huko ki-sparta.
The future belongs to those who prepare for it!
Njung'e
#139 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:19:28 PM
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[quote=youcan'tstopusnow]Kenya at war, but Kibaki goes MIA
http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/11gubxoz/-/index.html[/quote]

Petty misguided opinionSad ....Kenya is not at war with Somalia and here is where the president would be talking (As CIC)....We are after some terrorists and the ministers in charge of defence,internal security and foreign affairs are all we need.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
fantony
#140 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:44:08 PM
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McReggae wrote:
My friend Oletumbi has other details here:

http://www.dennisitumbi.com/?p=140

...this you cant get in the mainstream media bra!!!!


Enyewe i am slow.. i just realised this.. i was going to blame the CIA
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