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marko
#61 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:56:44 PM
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The one thing that you don seem to get is that event though it is a confirmation hearing, the prosecution has to prove that without a reasonable doubt that they can take the case to the full. Just proving that the witness was in the police force is not good enough. They have not shown that he was actually involved in the commandeering of the rioters and killers. Of course as a police officer you are trained in small arms skills. that should not be a surprise to anyone. We may be third world but we dont have a boy scout police force.
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marko
#62 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:00:24 PM
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Katwa is using a very efficient mode of defence. He must have looked at the evidence and realised that by pointing out holes in the prosecution evidence about the whereabouts of the chairman of the network, then there is no way his underling client could have been there. It works and is far much easier. the whole case is hinged around the meetings that HR chaired.
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FundamentAli
#63 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:03:31 PM
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Kenyan Kop wrote:
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My point exactly. For instance where are the radio transcripts of the coded language?


Arap Sang has provided to the ICC. LMO could turn out to be a big joke.
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marko
#64 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:08:45 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
Kenyan Kop wrote:
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My point exactly. For instance where are the radio transcripts of the coded language?


Arap Sang has provided to the ICC. LMO could turn out to be a big joke.



The coded transcripts have been classified as confidential.
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Kenyan Kop
#65 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 6:05:34 PM
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@Marko the transcripts provided by Ocampo are from 8th January 2008 to 31st January 2008. This is not the period the prosecutor has build his case upon.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#66 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 6:33:41 PM
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Also very disppointed in Ocampo, he seems to have handled his preparations for this trials in a very simplistic manner. It would be very disappointing if he did not confirm the whereabouts of Ruto and Co, before making the claims that they were at a planning meeting.

Could be a case of Ocampo underestimating the capability of Kenyans and the level of our sophistication. He probably thinks kenya is like DRC.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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alikujia
#67 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:13:30 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Also very disppointed in Ocampo, he seems to have handled his preparations for this trials in a very simplistic manner. It would be very disappointing if he did not confirm the whereabouts of Ruto and Co, before making the claims that they were at a planning meeting.

Could be a case of Ocampo underestimating the capability of Kenyans and the level of our sophistication. He probably thinks kenya is like DRC.

Interesting proceedings. Could Ocampo be keeping back his best foot, even when he could be failing at this point and no chance for next stage! Unless he knows this stage is walkover.
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'user'
#68 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:19:29 PM
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why do I think that AS witness prof paul chepkwony is lying before the icc? ati he has not spoken to AS since he was asked by AS to act as witness
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'user'
#69 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:33:48 PM
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madam president seems to note his inconsistencies
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marko
#70 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:27:18 PM
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Kenyan Kop wrote:
@Marko the transcripts provided by Ocampo are from 8th January 2008 to 31st January 2008. This is not the period the prosecutor has build his case upon.


So he gave evidence that he does not intend to use? Don't tell me that you cannot smell a sewer rat there. He is the one to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he has a case..He hasn't done that. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE PROSECUTOR.
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