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GMO Ugali
'user'
#61 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 3:20:53 PM
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Location: Londokwe
B.Timer wrote:
'user' wrote:
And to make the matters worse , these GMO are being brought to be eaten only . Not to be planted .How will that benefit our farmers?
Sounds cynical.

Simple ,They want to know if we will die if we eat the GMOs.And this is evil



How simplistic can we be!

There a diffence between seed grain and food grain.

This is a move to mitigate inadequate food stocks.

If you need seed, go to the right place.

And by the plants in the field would have ceratin other effects on the existing ecosystem.

Did you know, you are not allowed to import any foreign plants for purposes of planting, - lest they interfere with the existing flora and fauna.


Big timer , this is laughable or cryable .Na unajua the GMO will land kwetu Londokwe mwiso wa ndia, na Kwenyu Mwingi na kwakina magigi , karibu na Konza ICT as soon a the first ship docks .I fear for the men and women there.

Why cant we mitigate using the conventional maize , its available in Malawi.

can someone tell me if GMO are cheaper than the conventional maize/ cereals.
That will make sense , since we will be feeding our poor with the poison because it's cheaper .

Why are we going for something that has not been tested for long term effects when we have have good alternatives available.
Why is ODM leadership so fast in supporting this GMOs.

I am a supporter of Raila , no secret , but not a blind one.I do ask questions
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MaichBlack
#62 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 3:42:44 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
What i want to know is
(i)who is advocating for GMOs (the millers are reluctant)
(ii)who the importers of these GMO's and
(ii) A clear guideline on the quality measures out in place to ensure we are getting good stuff.

Otherwise we are just opening the doors for rubbish to be dumped in our country.

I asked this question and nobody bothered answering. We have non-GMO maize readily available from numerous African countries. Can someone explain to us in slow motion exactly why "we" want to import GMO maize? If it was the only available option, maybe I would understand, but it is not! Was somebody handed a fat cheque - maybe in dollars? Might he be the same person who was handed a fat cheque by the owner of Grainbulk Handlers Limited? Might there be a connection between the GMO maize importation and Grainbulk Handlers Limited?

All advocates of GMOs can you tell us why we need to buy GMO maize. And give facts only. If it is price, go ahead and compare the prices etc.
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Tebes
#63 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 3:45:48 PM
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"Dad, are there any genes on my plate?" my 14-year-old daughter asked.What if
your child asked you this? An opinion survey showed that 70 percent of the
people have the mistaken idea that ordinary food does not contain genes,
whereas GM food does. Rather than explain to my daughter that every bite of
food on her plate has billions of genes, I told her a story.
"In the mountains high above Cristobal de las Casas in Chiapas, Luis and
Jimena Rodriguez tend their small field of corn and beans.They are ‘organic’
farmers because they don’t have enough money to buy fertilizers or pesticides.
After they bring in the corn harvest, they store the ears in a large corn crib that
covers the entire back wall of their one-room house. It’s the safest place to store
the corn.This room also has their bed and the four kids sleep on the floor. After
the harvest is in, Luis goes to town to buy some pesticide to fumigate the corn
inside his house. In the house his corn is safe from rain, rodents, and thieves, but
not from insects. If he does not fumigate, the weevils will eat the stored corn. If
he does not fumigate, he will have more weevils than corn kernels in six
months’ time. Indeed, each female weevil lays about 100 eggs, and after the larvae
hatch, they burrow into the seeds. After thirty-five days mature insects
emerge and the cycle begins again. Half of those insects are females, so just
multiply 50 by 50 by 50 by 50 by 50 and figure out how many that is," I said to
my daughter.
"More than 5 million," she answered, "all coming from two weevils."
"Now suppose that the corn was genetically modified with a Bt gene to kill
those weevils, the parents and children wouldn’t have to sleep in those pesticide
fumes," I said. "Don’t you think those children would benefit from having
some genes on their plates?"

Great discussion here........

http://www.sdcma.org/GMFoodsBrochure.pdf
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
kenmac
#64 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 3:46:42 PM
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Let the ministers who approved the importation of GMO first hold a party on Uhuru park and publicly feast on GMO ugali.

If they are still healthy after a month, we'll join them.
......Ecclesiastes
mukiha
#65 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 4:40:07 PM
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Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
Tebes wrote:
"Dad, are there any genes on my plate?" my 14-year-old daughter asked.What if
your child asked you this? An opinion survey showed that 70 percent of the
people have the mistaken idea that ordinary food does not contain genes,
whereas GM food does. Rather than explain to my daughter that every bite of
food on her plate has billions of genes, I told her a story.
"In the mountains high above Cristobal de las Casas in Chiapas, Luis and
Jimena Rodriguez tend their small field of corn and beans.They are ‘organic’
farmers because they don’t have enough money to buy fertilizers or pesticides.
After they bring in the corn harvest, they store the ears in a large corn crib that
covers the entire back wall of their one-room house. It’s the safest place to store
the corn.This room also has their bed and the four kids sleep on the floor. After
the harvest is in, Luis goes to town to buy some pesticide to fumigate the corn
inside his house. In the house his corn is safe from rain, rodents, and thieves, but
not from insects. If he does not fumigate, the weevils will eat the stored corn. If
he does not fumigate, he will have more weevils than corn kernels in six
months’ time. Indeed, each female weevil lays about 100 eggs, and after the larvae
hatch, they burrow into the seeds. After thirty-five days mature insects
emerge and the cycle begins again. Half of those insects are females, so just
multiply 50 by 50 by 50 by 50 by 50 and figure out how many that is," I said to
my daughter.
"More than 5 million," she answered, "all coming from two weevils."
"Now suppose that the corn was genetically modified with a Bt gene to kill
those weevils, the parents and children wouldn’t have to sleep in those pesticide
fumes," I said. "Don’t you think those children would benefit from having
some genes on their plates?"

Great discussion here........

http://www.sdcma.org/GMFoodsBrochure.pdf





Applause
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MaichBlack
#66 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 4:46:40 PM
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kenmac wrote:
Let the ministers who approved the importation of GMO first hold a party on Uhuru park and publicly feast on GMO ugali.

If they are still healthy after a month, we'll join them.

Good point. And the Parliament canteen should prepare only GMO ugali.

These bloody characters will never partake of GMO-ugali and they are shouting at the top of their voices how safe they are. Again I ask, why specifically GMO maize??? Can somebody answer that!

Interesting reads. Make a point of going through them

Monsato and GMO

Monsato vs Farmers

USDA in Bed With Monsato!!!

These two links are a MUST read!!!

The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) has issued a warning urging the public to avoid genetically modified foods

Mexico rejects Monsanto’s GMO corn
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MaichBlack
#67 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 4:49:34 PM
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Quote:
Indian buffalo that consumed genetically modified cottonseed experienced various birthing complications including infertility, abortions, premature delivery, and prolapsed uteruses. Many of the calves that survived birth died shortly thereafter.

In the United States, about 24 farmers reported that their pigs became sterile after consuming genetically modified corn.
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MaichBlack
#68 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 5:14:31 PM
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Quote:
Despite consensus from most FDA scientists in the early '90s declaring that genetically modified foods are inherently dangerous and could lead to all sorts of serious health problems, politics won out as mandates were given from Washington to promote biotechnology and GMOs in spite of apparent and obvious dangers. This led to the promotion of Michael Taylor, former attorney for Monsanto, as head of GMO policy at the FDA, a move that led to the official denial by the agency of any knowledge or substantiated concern by any FDA scientists about the safety of GMOs.

Quote:
Despite findings in some 44,000 pages of internal FDA memos and reports released in 1999 due to a lawsuit, findings that contained the warnings from then scientists about the "unintended negative side effects" of genetic engineering, official FDA GMO policy has been scrubbed clean of the truth and purports blatant lies in its defense of GMOs as safe. In fact, current policy emphatically states that no safety studies on GMOs are even required or necessary; it is instead up to Big Biotech to determine the safety of its own genetically modified organisms if it so chooses.
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Foreman
#69 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 6:48:38 PM
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Where there is smoke, there is fire. They will feed the GMO to us then in 2015 we will be discussing a thread titled, 'FINALLY EXPERTS ADMIT GMOs ARE A THREAT TO HUMAN HEALTH.'
They say the unga shall be labelled, but how do i know if the ugali served at the restaurant is GMO or not.
MaichBlack
#70 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 7:33:10 PM
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Foreman wrote:
Where there is smoke, there is fire. They will feed the GMO to us then in 2015 we will be discussing a thread titled, 'FINALLY EXPERTS ADMIT GMOs ARE A THREAT TO HUMAN HEALTH.'
They say the unga shall be labelled, but how do i know if the ugali served at the restaurant is GMO or not.

And this is Kenya!!! Haven't we seen people arrested with bhang bearing Kebs labels? Once this maize lands in Kenya, we are finished! The labeling will be in theory only.
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