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Why are Kikuyus supporting Ruto?
Much Know
#61 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 4:49:16 PM
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Madam Wendz, as always elegant balanced and thoughtful in your arguments.
Ras Kienyeji Man
newfarer
#62 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 4:56:17 PM
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Wendz thanks for the advice.You truly are a great Kenyan.I believe you are doing a great deal changing some mindsets here.Endelea vivyo hivyo.

Personally I do like instilling such virtues whenever an opportunity arises.




punda amecheka
YesuWangu
#63 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 5:05:20 PM
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McReggae wrote:
YesuWangu wrote:
hoodrat wrote:
So who is waiting for who to change first?The politicians will always throw the tribal bait at every opportunity because they know very well the masses will bite it hook and sink,forget about all about that perfomance record stuff.This forum is already charged so you can already tell what will inform how they vote in the next GE!


I dont know.

But one thing I see could be a ray of hope. We have not seen him going to his community to tell them they are being targetted.

That makes him different, a little bit more mature. I hope he does not do that. I sincerely do.


Whom are you referring to here???

The wazua gets charged on this subject sends a chill down my spine, I fear for twentetwelof!!!!!


I know, there are members to whom I will forever be an 'enemy' for saying this.

But him....dont you know him? Oskoff you do. Hint, members of his tribe are not holding rallies, at least that we have watched on the news or read in newspapers, in their home turfs defending him while prominently accusing the others....
smano
#64 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 5:06:13 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Its okay you can throw those "clever insults" at me, but to bury my head in the sand and ignore a “tribal crisis” and a tribally warped political system in Kenya is what really is uneducated. What solution are you providing for a future crisis? Do you expect by 2012 Kenyans would have stopped tribalism; if no what measures will you take to ensure tribalism foes do not flare into violence? Will this short lived political "reconciliation" dalliance between tribes end the 18 year wars? Is it rock solid or predatory with an imminent fallout?. Unlike some here who are “proud” to speak multiple languages, I am unable to fluently speak any and identify with none, I have spent few moments upcountry and can’t specifically identify with any tribe or community, that’s the truth of the matter, but I will not ignore a problem that interferes with my investments, peace, prosperity and choice of residence as a Kenyan by playing a take no responsibility role of “I am not into tribalism”, “politicians are the problem not the people” etc.

Kenyans will continue to vote for POLITICIANS forever and ever, in any case what other solution besides voting politicians is in existence in this universe? Can you start it? Maybe we ask the church to lead? It will always be politicians and they are all overwhelmingly supported in the grassroots. The masses in Rift Valley will say RUTO represents them, and there are showing it everyday on T.V and don’t be a fool to think they don’t or are FORCED BY SOME POLITICAL MAGIC TO SUPPORT HIM, it is their will and he represents their will, if he fails them they remove him, that is it!!.

I DO NOT SUPPORT TRIBALISM, I just can’t ignore it, I hope and know it is dropping but it is still a very real factor in Kenyan politics and will continue to be so for sometime. I can’t ignore the above, tribalism and its dynamics then wait for more to die in 2012 as I sit in my office sipping coffee or flee the country and choose to PRETENTIOUSLY PUT MYSELF ABOVE THE MWANAINCHI

Applause Applause Applause

This is the truth ladies and gentlemen, and anyone who is naive enough to think that KKK represents a step towards lasting peace between the 2 communities is tragically mistaken!Smell the coffee brothers and sisters, we are in the midst of the animal farm as described by George Orwell

BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
Mtu Biz
#65 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 5:11:55 PM
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Animal farm indeed!

Sola Scriptura


bepari
#66 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 5:17:14 PM
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I've been listening to John meyer's 'waitin on the world to change' am switching to mj's 'man in the mirror' hope u do the same.
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
hoodrat
#67 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 5:21:50 PM
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YesuWangu wrote:
McReggae wrote:
YesuWangu wrote:
hoodrat wrote:
So who is waiting for who to change first?The politicians will always throw the tribal bait at every opportunity because they know very well the masses will bite it hook and sink,forget about all about that perfomance record stuff.This forum is already charged so you can already tell what will inform how they vote in the next GE!


I dont know.

But one thing I see could be a ray of hope. We have not seen him going to his community to tell them they are being targetted.

That makes him different, a little bit more mature. I hope he does not do that. I sincerely do.


Whom are you referring to here???

The wazua gets charged on this subject sends a chill down my spine, I fear for twentetwelof!!!!!


I know, there are members to whom I will forever be an 'enemy' for saying this.

But him....dont you know him? Oskoff you do. Hint, members of his tribe are not holding rallies, at least that we have watched on the news or read in newspapers, in their home turfs defending him while prominently accusing the others....

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you You are truly lost.As your name @Yesuwangu suggests youshould be in the forefront of shunning such talk!
Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today!
Obi 1 Kanobi
#68 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 6:45:12 PM
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Ruto and UK must make a concerted effort to convince the IDP's to return to their lands for true reconciliation to be felt.

Holding Rallies and taking pot shots at RAO will not deceive Kenyans.

As to support, i don't think Kiuks genuinely support Ruto, I think they are currently happy to kick RAO while he is down but as soon as the euphoria dies down they will realise that Ruto and UK are only keen on saving their own skins from hague, they will then be forced to sit up and take notice of the stark reality.

I hope there is real reconciliation between these 2 communities and also that Kenyan's start being Kenyans first and tribal second.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
mozenrat
#69 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 7:44:29 PM
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I'm voting for Martha Karua come 2012.. She will lose. but at least I will not have voted for the guy who financed the PEV nor will I have voted for the person who was an apologist for the rapists and murderers
simonkabz
#70 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 9:13:06 PM
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Political affiliations n Alliances happen all over the world, TODAY. The blacks overwhelmingly voted 4 Obama. Every soul, has his/her own leanings n loyalty. Every man has an element of ethnicity/racism in him, variation being the INTENSITY and/or ABILITY TO CONTROL it. Im also certain the unfolding political machinations would occur anywhere else in the world, n what we are seeing is just a simple chess game which any of us noisy wazuans, if in WR or UK's shoes, WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME. Guys, politicians r not geniuses, they r just lyk us n their shenanigans are highly predictable. Personally, I saw these alliances coming several months ago. Dnt read too much into these games, dnt worry uaself to death, COZ POLITICAL GAMES ARE HERE TO STAY, have existed since time immemorial n we cant do a thng about them! Let the alliances n counter alliances play out, hopefully, PEACEFULLY.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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