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Finally the EPL kicks off!
anasazi
#1361 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:41:12 AM
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Some of these refs are very competent (when you are a Manure fan). Otherwise they need to be stoned. Lee Mason, Howard Webb (MBE - Manchesters Best Employee) etc etc.
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smano
#1362 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:42:28 AM
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There was quite some discussion about Saha's offside goal after the match. Koscielny tried to control the ball before it reached Saha, ostensibly putting him onside..that's how the official looked at it. Had the ball hit Koscielny by mistake and gotten to Saha, they reckoned he'd have blown the whistle.

The other school of thought is that the official should have blown the whistle immediately the ball was played in, even before Koscielny tried to control it. Most guys belong to the second school, including Wenger, Moyes and me. But the scoreline wound up the debate though they should come out clearly.

As for the Man Utd game, it's only Friedel who prevented Rooney from scoring a hat trick. Teams should be afraid to see him regaining his goal scoring form.

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winston
#1363 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:17:42 PM
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We can now sleep through the weekend fixtures where Arsenal entertain Fulham (is that a derby?), Man-u visit wolves (once a upon a time they were wolves but now are sheep) and the one not to sleep - chelsea welcome liverpool (andy carrol vs torres?...andy carrol to score first?.

However, the game...the real game will be on 12th February 2011 when the noisy neighbours will come to park their bus at Old Trafford. I Cant wait!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
McReggae
#1364 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:25:28 PM
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hey winston, carrol has a thigh injury n' weeks away frm return!!!!!
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winston
#1365 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:09:34 PM
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@mc Reggae...didnt know that! Thanks.
winston
#1366 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:10:46 PM
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@wendz...chelsea won....but they had to raise their game in H2!
smano
#1367 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:15:02 PM
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That's too far away Winston...on Sunday Chelsea entertain Liverpool, Torres set to make his debut:-0
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Jus Blazin
#1368 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:52:47 PM
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This second half of the season, with 14 games or so remaining, will be a true test to United's assault in RECLAIMING ITS TROPHY. With the purchases made by the Pensioners and the Reds, only time will tell if the WILL is there. 14 games only Sir Fergie, take it one by one. Dismantle these teams, lay them bare and walk into Number 19.
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Jus Blazin
#1369 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:34:11 PM
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In other news, former United El Capitan Gary Neville has retired from football with immediate effect.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Jus Blazin
#1370 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:59:06 PM
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winston wrote:
We can now sleep through the weekend fixtures where Arsenal entertain Fulham (is that a derby?)

Arsenal are being entertained by Andy Caroll-less Newcastle. Arsenal vs Fulham is a London Derby but Arsenal's derby is usually the North London Derby with Spurs, whereas Fulham's is the West London Derby with Chelsea. Chelsea is actually situated in Fulham area of London.
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McReggae
#1371 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:48:58 AM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
In other news, former United El Capitan Gary Neville has retired from football with immediate effect.


Farewell Gary, the best English rightback of his generation!!!!Applause Applause Applause
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TAZ
#1372 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:08:24 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
In other news, former United El Capitan Gary Neville has retired from football with immediate effect.


Farewell Gary, the best English rightback of his generation!!!!Applause Applause Applause

I think the only reason why SAF kept him around was because of his loyalty to the club. Of course he's won trophies with the club but theres not much to talk about in terms of individual performance.
Jus Blazin
#1373 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:12:33 PM
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TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
In other news, former United El Capitan Gary Neville has retired from football with immediate effect.


Farewell Gary, the best English rightback of his generation!!!!Applause Applause Applause

I think the only reason why SAF kept him around was because of his loyalty to the club. Of course he's won trophies with the club but theres not much to talk about in terms of individual performance.

@TAZ, are you out of your mind? Individual performance?? What do you understand by the best English rightback of his generation, and one of the best in the world in his generation? Hata kama you dont like United, respect tafadhali.
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McReggae
#1374 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22:04 PM
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TAZ, Gary was a true united legend!!!
“He turned into a remarkable player and never let United or England down. I am immensely proud of him and have the utmost respect for what he achieved.” After leading United’s ’92 boys to FA Youth Cup glory, Red Nev was quickly fast-tracked for a taste of first team action when he made his senior debut against Torpedo Moscow in September of 1992 at Old Trafford in the UEFA Cup.

Apart from Giggs, he’d beaten all of the more illustrious prodigies from his year group into Fergie’s first team.

The major breakthrough came when the ‘94 Dream Team regular No 2 Paul Parker began suffering from injuries. He edged the senior pro out of the picture in 1995-96 season and no challenger was ever able to seriously destabilise his role in Fergie’s XI for a dozen years.

Neville even took Parker’s England No 2 berth from him and became the country’s first -choice right back for Terry Venables, Glenn Hoddle, Kevin Keegan, Sven-Goran Eriksson and Steve McClaren.

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smano
#1375 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:28:37 PM
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During his hey days Neville was up there with the rest...towards the twilight years "Bedford" was a red card and/or penalty waiting to happen. He has served us well.

Fergie's 1st business of the day in the summer is to buy a well established right back so that we have cover for Rafael who will assume with mantle with verve - O'shea is a jumbling mess as evidenced in the Villa game. He should also give more game time to Fabio e.g. when a game is comfortable or when playing weak opposition in the FA cup.

If our defense remains fit, I believe that is what will win Man Utd the title it would /should have won last season had Vidic and Rio not missed as many games as they did.

The Kop look like they'll not miss Torres after all with Suarez scoring on his debut but the real test will be at the Bridge, a game I'll be happy to see Chelsea draw and be 12 points adrift if we win.

I dare say that the two games Man Utd play against Chelsea could determine if Arsenal are right up there at the end, seeing as they're only 5 points adrift. It was nice to see City drop points yesterday.

I think Chelsea will pip Spurs to the 4th place, perhaps even dislodge Man City.

As things stand, this is how I think it might end:

1. Man Utd - My bias is obvious
2. Arsenal - beat them by 2 points
3. Chelsea - A point adrift of Arsenal
4. Man City - One point adrift or goal difference
5. Spurs/Liverpool - Yes, I think a resurgent Liverpool will upset a stretched Spurs, but if they exit CL early,it's all to play for.

My assumptions are based on pedigree and not the remaining fixtures
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Jus Blazin
#1376 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:30:37 PM
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McReggae wrote:
TAZ, Gary was a true united legend!!!
“He turned into a remarkable player and never let United or England down. I am immensely proud of him and have the utmost respect for what he achieved.” After leading United’s ’92 boys to FA Youth Cup glory, Red Nev was quickly fast-tracked for a taste of first team action when he made his senior debut against Torpedo Moscow in September of 1992 at Old Trafford in the UEFA Cup.

Apart from Giggs, he’d beaten all of the more illustrious prodigies from his year group into Fergie’s first team.

The major breakthrough came when the ‘94 Dream Team regular No 2 Paul Parker began suffering from injuries. He edged the senior pro out of the picture in 1995-96 season and no challenger was ever able to seriously destabilise his role in Fergie’s XI for a dozen years.

Neville even took Parker’s England No 2 berth from him and became the country’s first -choice right back for Terry Venables, Glenn Hoddle, Kevin Keegan, Sven-Goran Eriksson and Steve McClaren.


@TAZ, dont hate the player...True Legend. His partnership on the right with Beckham was simply oustanding. First of Fergie Fledglings to retire. Shows you how good these players were.
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smano
#1377 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:59:47 PM
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Sir Ryan is like a fine wine, getting better with age...his performances in the Blackpool and Villa games belied his age, Scholes was similarly exceptional at the beginning of the season till the injury...it is amazing that there's actually been no pressing need to get a new signing in the Jan window
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TAZ
#1378 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:50:34 PM
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The only words i can use to describe Gary is Loyal, motivated, determined and hard-working....typical English player. He somehow reminded me of AC Milan Gatusso, very effective in physical encounters.
Jus Blazin
#1379 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:09:47 PM
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@Taz, that's when you realise that it doesnt matter what you think. He's a legend. Just like scholes, keane, cantona, giggs, solskjaer.
the last legend you guys produced was henry...after that we'll have to wait for x number of years before arsenal produces another. At United, we keep on minting them.
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TAZ
#1380 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:29:31 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
@Taz, that's when you realise that it doesnt matter what you think. He's a legend. Just like scholes, keane, cantona, giggs, solskjaer.
the last legend you guys produced was henry...after that we'll have to wait for x number of years before arsenal produces another. At United, we keep on minting them.


I think almost all EPL clubs have legends, for Arsenal we had Tony Adams, Ian Wright, Dennis Bergkamp, Lee Dixon, Ray Parlour, Winterburn, Seaman, Viera...i can name so many but that's besides the point, Solskjaer, Keane and Cantona were great players but Gary just had different qualities. I felt the same way about the brother too.
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