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Kenya Economy Watch
maka
#681 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:36:41 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Repercussions?

The Sh8b question as banks bail out Government to help it repay loan

Link: http://goo.gl/J9JX9M

Dicey affair,I am positive that the eurobond uptake will be good,short of that we,l be in for a bumpy ride...
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KulaRaha
#682 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:37:49 AM
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What price will it go for? 9%?
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maka
#683 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:41:58 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
What price will it go for? 9%?

I,l still stick to my 7.25% to 7.75% that i quoted in the dummy book running thread...
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hisah
#684 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:37:03 PM
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maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
What price will it go for? 9%?

I,l still stick to my 7.25% to 7.75% that i quoted in the dummy book running thread...

7.5% should be max. Above that it doesn't make sense for KE to float the bond.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Othelo
#685 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:00:44 PM
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hisah wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
What price will it go for? 9%?

I,l still stick to my 7.25% to 7.75% that i quoted in the dummy book running thread...

7.5% should be max. Above that it doesn't make sense for KE to float the bond.

How did it move from about 4.5% to 7.5%
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kizee1
#686 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:05:44 PM
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Othelo wrote:
hisah wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
What price will it go for? 9%?

I,l still stick to my 7.25% to 7.75% that i quoted in the dummy book running thread...

7.5% should be max. Above that it doesn't make sense for KE to float the bond.

How did it move from about 4.5% to 7.5%


this is a very good question given that the syndicated loan is @ 4.5
hisah
#687 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:05:19 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
Othelo wrote:
hisah wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
What price will it go for? 9%?

I,l still stick to my 7.25% to 7.75% that i quoted in the dummy book running thread...

7.5% should be max. Above that it doesn't make sense for KE to float the bond.

How did it move from about 4.5% to 7.5%


this is a very good question given that the syndicated loan is @ 4.5

A lot has changed. Fed tapering, KE negative terror scene publicity, rolling over the May pay for the syndicate loan etc. Hard for KE to get a rate below 6% if you compare it with the latest issues from Ghana and Nigeria or Gabon. Bond sharks will want higher yields to price in the current status, which KE can't call the shots from its current position.

**4.5% will be a miracle**
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
tonicasert
#688 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:45:39 AM
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If the syndication banks had priced in a spread of 475bps, and current 10Y swaps are at 2.60%, 7% on the 10Y note would be the ballpark (bearing in mind the syndicate banks "agree" jointly on how wide the spread can be).

Zambia (similar credit rating as KE), last month issued $1b @ 8.625% (vs demand of $ 4.25B)
kizee1
#689 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:12:21 AM
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hisah wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
Othelo wrote:
hisah wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
What price will it go for? 9%?

I,l still stick to my 7.25% to 7.75% that i quoted in the dummy book running thread...

7.5% should be max. Above that it doesn't make sense for KE to float the bond.

How did it move from about 4.5% to 7.5%


this is a very good question given that the syndicated loan is @ 4.5

A lot has changed. Fed tapering, KE negative terror scene publicity, rolling over the May pay for the syndicate loan etc. Hard for KE to get a rate below 6% if you compare it with the latest issues from Ghana and Nigeria or Gabon. Bond sharks will want higher yields to price in the current status, which KE can't call the shots from its current position.

**4.5% will be a miracle**


some parties were willing to roll this over @ 4.5,even at the time of this borrowing likes of ghana were borrowing at 7/8 percent, what is tenor of this eurobond anyway
mkonomtupu
#690 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:09:54 PM
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The Eurobond didn't help Ghana and Zambia

Quote:
African economies are securing new funds through resource finds or dollar bonds but many governments face questions over how they use the money and risk being punished by international capital markets.

Read the original article on Theafricareport.com : Ghana, Zambia spending spree faces punishment by markets | West Africa
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