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limanika wrote:Swenani wrote:Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers pork failed us, nkaiseri failed us. The fact he flew to site means he had never prepared or appraised preparedness of his officers for such eventuality. Pork had never asked nkaiseri if his officers could handle such emergencies. If he had asked and nkaiseri informed him every officer is alert and ready, why he didn't verify indipendently? You have no idea on how GOK works. If a copter is down, everyone knows, its just ignored "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:Swenani wrote:Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers pork failed us, nkaiseri failed us. The fact he flew to site means he had never prepared or appraised preparedness of his officers for such eventuality. Pork had never asked nkaiseri if his officers could handle such emergencies. If he had asked and nkaiseri informed him every officer is alert and ready, why he didn't verify indipendently? You have no idea on how GOK works. If a copter is down, everyone knows, its just ignored The only policy they seem to have against terror is interdiction interdiction, interdiction-after the event. If someone didn't know his officers are incompetent or corrupt, he ought to go as well. It is too sad to see interdiction only because there was an event
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/22/2011 Posts: 561 Location: House
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we are screwed as a country. the biggest handle is the very security agents we are supposed to rely on. only a generation mind change will save us. firing is a step but not enough...i feel sad and all those who know the shithole we are in cant help but feel sad. if u have ever dealt with our police u will know ...naameam?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:Swenani wrote:Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers pork failed us, nkaiseri failed us. The fact he flew to site means he had never prepared or appraised preparedness of his officers for such eventuality. Pork had never asked nkaiseri if his officers could handle such emergencies. If he had asked and nkaiseri informed him every officer is alert and ready, why he didn't verify indipendently? You have no idea on how GOK works. If a copter is down, everyone knows, its just ignored The only policy they seem to have against terror is interdiction interdiction, interdiction-after the event. If someone didn't know his officers are incompetent or corrupt, he ought to go as well. It is too sad to see interdiction only because there was an event I asked in another thread if there's a law that prohibits civil servants from getting fired. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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This whole matter of terror, war against terror, and the like is a hoax. Thing is humanity hasn't found a way of fulfilling its various forms of hunger without self harm. And all forms of pretext are used.
And unwittingly, we are fanning the fire.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:This whole matter of terror, war against terror, and the like is a hoax. Thing is humanity hasn't found a way of fulfilling its various forms of hunger without self harm. And all forms of pretext are used.
And unwittingly, we are fanning the fire. When you read history, the elite has been known to use this trick for years. What they do is: 1. create a problem 2. get a reaction like fear of terrorism 3. offer a solution e.g. war in Afghanistan and Iraq for big business e.g. oil or tenders to supply security equipment etc NB: I'm not saying Garissa attack was staged. No, I'm just talking about " False Flag Operation" concept.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:This whole matter of terror, war against terror, and the like is a hoax. Thing is humanity hasn't found a way of fulfilling its various forms of hunger without self harm. And all forms of pretext are used.
And unwittingly, we are fanning the fire. When you read history, the elite has been known to use this trick for years. What they do is: 1. create a problem 2. get a reaction like fear of terrorism 3. offer a solution e.g. war in Afghanistan and Iraq for big business e.g. oil or tenders to supply security equipment etc NB: I'm not saying Garissa attack was staged. No, I'm just talking about " False Flag Operation" concept. It's not just about the elite; humanity has a tendency to hoax itself especially in the midst of helpless experience.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:Swenani wrote:Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers pork failed us, nkaiseri failed us. The fact he flew to site means he had never prepared or appraised preparedness of his officers for such eventuality. Pork had never asked nkaiseri if his officers could handle such emergencies. If he had asked and nkaiseri informed him every officer is alert and ready, why he didn't verify indipendently? You have no idea on how GOK works. If a copter is down, everyone knows, its just ignored The only policy they seem to have against terror is interdiction interdiction, interdiction-after the event. If someone didn't know his officers are incompetent or corrupt, he ought to go as well. It is too sad to see interdiction only because there was an event I asked in another thread if there's a law that prohibits civil servants from getting fired. I for one am happy that these senior officers have been interdicted. They basically do nothing so they might as well pay for their acts of ommission or commission. Kudos to Uhuru and Nkaissery, thats how systems are run everywhere, your boss will always blame you for a cork up if he can get away with it. Its upon you to ensure you don't get fired by always holding your end of the bargain and delivering on the job to your level best Why do I have a feeling that the senior security teams of high risk counties are taking intelligence briefs more seriously, double checking leads, asking follow up questions and generally working hard to cover their arses but in the process making their juniors more accountable. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:Makali1 wrote:tycho wrote:
Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...
Ati you say the Shahada? And deny the Lord Jesus Christ? The bible says the ones who deny Him, He will also deny infront of all the angels. The Shahada goes like this: La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah. There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah. Allah is not Yahweh and needless to say, Mohammed was a murderer, adulterer, rapist, Jew and Christian hater, an all around vile man. However, according to Islam, he was the perfect human being that all should try as best as they can to follow in his footsteps. Do not deny the Christ! Never, never. God help me I will gladly say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. The suffering is for a minute but thereafter a glorious paradise awaits. Revelation 20:4: Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED because of their TESTIMONY OF JESUS and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years So, in this case the fight is for faith in Christ? Some may also be non Muslim non Christians. I miss Hamburglar.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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@obi, that BAU or biz as usual approach can work in other sectors but not suitable ati address prevailing security challenges. If we say solution is to interdict after every attack, this will end up being a very costly mistake. What is needed is training and equipping our personell so they come upto task, and then heavy investment in intelligence and counterintelligence. There should be checks & audits done in peace time to weed out corrupt and those who can't handle the prevailing challenges, so we can reduce these attacks to zero.
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