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#641 Posted : Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:28:24 PM
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@nakujua, if the cost of reinforcing the slab with steel surpasses the cost of excavating the black cotton soil, then its better to excavate. As a rule of thumb, if the black cotton excavation is deeper than 2.5meters, then its better to reinforce the slab through a suspended type foundation.
If the cotton soil is 2.5 m and below in depth, then excavation is the better choice.
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nakujua
#642 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2014 9:13:08 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@nakujua, if the cost of reinforcing the slab with steel surpasses the cost of excavating the black cotton soil, then its better to excavate. As a rule of thumb, if the black cotton excavation is deeper than 2.5meters, then its better to reinforce the slab through a suspended type foundation.
If the cotton soil is 2.5 m and below in depth, then excavation is the better choice.

thanks for the feedback, in my case excavation turned out cheap, about 15k for the digging part and paying a guy around 1700 per truck to pick the soil, the other option that was being floated was to avoid excavation add a layer of hardcore and put what they called brc then the slab, not sure how much it would have cost me.

as a side, how long does it take after pouring the concrete foundation strip, before the foundation walls start to be erected
josimar
#643 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2014 10:35:41 AM
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@ a4architect.com ,I have seen adverts along Namanga road promoting waffles and hollow blocks as a cost effective alternative to the traditional slab , any idea what this is?
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#644 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2014 11:58:36 AM
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@josimar, check here for more info

http://www.a4architect.c...son-prefabricated-situ/

There are cost savings of around 20 % per m2 of slab surface.


The hindsight is that you will need careful technical supervision form the structural engineer since most of the buildings that have colapsed in Nairobi have also used such.

See the Kasarani building here
http://www.a4architect.c...nd-how-to-prevent-this/

See the southern bypass building here

http://www.a4architect.c...pass-building-collapsed/
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josimar
#645 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2014 12:32:40 PM
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@josimar, check here for more info

http://www.a4architect.c...son-prefabricated-situ/

There are cost savings of around 20 % per m2 of slab surface.


The hindsight is that you will need careful technical supervision form the structural engineer since most of the buildings that have colapsed in Nairobi have also used such.

See the Kasarani building here
http://www.a4architect.c...nd-how-to-prevent-this/

See the southern bypass building here

http://www.a4architect.c...pass-building-collapsed/


Checked all the information and its useful.
african coloner
#646 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:30:54 AM
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josimar wrote:
@ a4architect.com ,I have seen adverts along Namanga road promoting waffles and hollow blocks as a cost effective alternative to the traditional slab , any idea what this is?


I don't like the look of them especially in living rooms or bedrooms
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#647 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:14:00 AM
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@african coloner, true, they have a kind of office/industrial look due to the many boxes with defined edges. In many situations especially in highrise ofices, a false suspended ceiling is put up below to hide the box like appearance.
Designs where the hollow blocks are to be used should have a higher floor to ceiling height in anticipation for the false ceiling construction.
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nakujua
#648 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:16:54 AM
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A formula for calculating the rough estimate cost of the first floor slab was disclosed - is there an equivalent for the ground slab.

what would a rough estimate quantity of material needed for the ground slab, after the hardcore has been filled up, for approximately 10m by 13m ground area.

any info will be appreciated.
a4architect.com
#649 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:45:09 AM
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@nakujua, check here

http://www.a4architect.c...son-prefabricated-situ/

Minus the cost of steel and cost of formwork and minus the size of slab since ground floor slab is usually 100mm thick compared to suspended slabs which are 150mm thick.
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vky
#650 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:32:11 AM
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@a4architect, great stuff going on in here, now i am about to proceed with a project where i am putting up a three storey building with eight two bedroom units, i have everything else sorted but would like to hear your take on dealing with electricians in terms of contracts, costs and may be a reference to a good electrician. lastly are there bodies that regulate electricians or electrical companies
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