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Garissa university attack.
AlphDoti
#641 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:32:23 PM
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Makali1 wrote:
tycho wrote:

Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...

Ati you say the Shahada? And deny the Lord Jesus Christ? The bible says the ones who deny Him, He will also deny infront of all the angels.

The Shahada goes like this:

La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah.

There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.

Allah is not Yahweh and needless to say, Mohammed was a murderer, adulterer, rapist, Jew and Christian hater, an all around vile man. However, according to Islam, he was the perfect human being that all should try as best as they can to follow in his footsteps.

Do not deny the Christ! Never, never. God help me I will gladly say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. The suffering is for a minute but thereafter a glorious paradise awaits.

Revelation 20:4: Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED because of their TESTIMONY OF JESUS and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years

Fools claim Jesus teaches them one thing and turn around and do something else (lie against others).

You spend all day looking for propaganda then you come and say Jesus is your savior!

TRUTH IS CLEAR FROM FALSEHOOD! And that will never change.

There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of God and Jesus is the prophet of God and Moses is the prophet of God and Noah is the prophet of God...
tycho
#642 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:39:07 PM
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Makali1 wrote:
tycho wrote:

Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...



Ati you say the Shahada? And deny the Lord Jesus Christ? The bible says the ones who deny Him, He will also deny infront of all the angels.

The Shahada goes like this:

La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah.

There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.

Allah is not Yahweh and needless to say, Mohammed was a murderer, adulterer, rapist, Jew and Christian hater, an all around vile man. However, according to Islam, he was the perfect human being that all should try as best as they can to follow in his footsteps.

Do not deny the Christ! Never, never. God help me I will gladly say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. The suffering is for a minute but thereafter a glorious paradise awaits.

Revelation 20:4: Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED because of their TESTIMONY OF JESUS and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years


So, in this case the fight is for faith in Christ? Some may also be non Muslim non Christians.
symbols
#643 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:44:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
AlphDoti wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
tycho wrote:

Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...

Ati you say the Shahada? And deny the Lord Jesus Christ? The bible says the ones who deny Him, He will also deny infront of all the angels.

The Shahada goes like this:

La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah.

There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.

Allah is not Yahweh and needless to say, Mohammed was a murderer, adulterer, rapist, Jew and Christian hater, an all around vile man. However, according to Islam, he was the perfect human being that all should try as best as they can to follow in his footsteps.

Do not deny the Christ! Never, never. God help me I will gladly say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. The suffering is for a minute but thereafter a glorious paradise awaits.

Revelation 20:4: Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED because of their TESTIMONY OF JESUS and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years

Fools claim Jesus teaches them one thing and turn around and do something else (lie against others).

You spend all day looking for propaganda then you come and say Jesus is your savior!

TRUTH IS CLEAR FROM FALSEHOOD! And that will never change.

There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of God and Jesus is the prophet of God and Moses is the prophet of God and Noah is the prophet of God...


You have described Muhammad.
tycho
#644 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:47:03 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Alba wrote:
tycho wrote:

Indeed I anticipated the answer you've given. But I have some doubt about the answer. Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...

If I attack one gunman alone because of initiative what are the odds I'll come out alive? What if five, or twenty, or fifty charge together? Is my objective still to come out alive?


Firstly, this has nothing to do with what a warrior does. If you do not fight you will die with 100% certainty. If you fight you have at least a 10% chance of surviving.
Consider that there were only four gunmen against 500 students. If all the students decided to rush at the gunmen at once, more lives would have been saved.

If you fight back, you may not save your own life but you may save the lives of others. Do you know that on September 11 2001, the passengers fought back and prevented a third plane from slamming into the world trade center.

Kenyans must now have the mentality of fighting back. Its better to die fighting than to just lay down and let them shoot you.


A fighter without a warrior spirit fighting for a 10% chance for survival or the saving of some other lives. The. fight is no longer about the fighter's life is it?

If I fight and live, but my friend dies; or if I fight and as a consequence I die and my friend lives, which is preferable? Or is the effect the same?
Lolest!
#645 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 9:04:07 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

Fools claim Jesus teaches them one thing and turn around and do something else (lie against others).

You spend all day looking for propaganda then you come and say Jesus is your savior!

TRUTH IS CLEAR FROM FALSEHOOD! And that will never change.

There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of God and Jesus is the prophet of God and Moses is the prophet of God and Noah is the prophet of God...


You have described Muhammad.

Applause Applause Applause When it comes to conmanship Mohammad is the G.O.A.T
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Makali1
#646 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 10:45:11 PM
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Joined: 4/13/2015
Posts: 73
AlphDoti wrote:


There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of God and Jesus is the prophet of God and Moses is the prophet of God and Noah is the prophet of God...


Jesus Christ can never be a prophet of Allah. Jesus Christ was, is and will always be God.

Isaiah 9:6

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Swenani
#647 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:58:14 PM
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Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
washiku
#648 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 5:16:04 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
Swenani wrote:
Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers


Ametumiwa SMS na Ouru after Raila told him to crack the whip
limanika
#649 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:10:33 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
Swenani wrote:
Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers
pork failed us, nkaiseri failed us. The fact he flew to site means he had never prepared or appraised preparedness of his officers for such eventuality.
Pork had never asked nkaiseri if his officers could handle such emergencies. If he had asked and nkaiseri informed him every officer is alert and ready, why he didn't verify indipendently?
jaggernaut
#650 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:33:10 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
Swenani wrote:
Nkaissery interdicts Garissa county commissioner and ask IG to interdict 7 senior police officers


Why didn't they do the same after westgate. Infact it's Nkaisery and IG who should be fired like happened to Ole lengu and gimaiyo.
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