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@AlphDoti, I know your modus operandi of wearing out other Christian wazuans who have posed debate questions regarding Islam.
I'm new here but have read through many religious topics. I have also spent a considerable amount of time researching on Islamic Doctrine. Kwa hivyo, huniwezi. I can smell the taqiyya from 10,000 miles away.
You spew the "tolerant, peaceful" Mecca verses here "for example there's no compulsion in Islam," to make people believe that Islam is peaceful yet you DECEITFULLY leave out the Medina verses which are the true, abrogated Islamic doctrine. The message Mohammed preached in Medina commanding his followers to chop off the heads and fingers of the kafir, deceive them, ambush them, enslave, rape and other atrocities. A true Muslim believes Mohammed was the perfect human being and that all Muslims should aspire to do the works he did.
Stick to the topic. Who mentioned 9/11? I'm talking about SHARIA LAW which is political Islam that outlines the treatment of Kafirs. If you deny Sharia Law then you are also an INFIDEL. But again, I won't be surprised if you deny because the Koran allows you to deceive the kafir.
So do you, or do you not accept SHARIA law as the perfect political system??
Your days of taqiyya, kitman, tawriya, muruna are numbered.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote:What lessons have Kenya residents learned from the Garissa attack?
If Al Shaytan attack another Kenyan Institution or mall or anything else, how should the people under attack react.
Obviously the first option is to hide. But if there is nowhere to hide, my take is that a person should go down fighting. Do not raise your hands or lie down. No surrender. They are going to shoot you anyway. If you are going to go, you may as well go fighting.
Second lesson is no matter what Al Shaytan say, do not trust them. Those Al Shaytan actually tricked female students to leave their dorms stating eti islam does not allow them to kill women. @Alba, I am wondering, in case of putting up a fight, what will one be fighting for?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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tycho wrote:Alba wrote:What lessons have Kenya residents learned from the Garissa attack?
If Al Shaytan attack another Kenyan Institution or mall or anything else, how should the people under attack react.
Obviously the first option is to hide. But if there is nowhere to hide, my take is that a person should go down fighting. Do not raise your hands or lie down. No surrender. They are going to shoot you anyway. If you are going to go, you may as well go fighting.
Second lesson is no matter what Al Shaytan say, do not trust them. Those Al Shaytan actually tricked female students to leave their dorms stating eti islam does not allow them to kill women. @Alba, I am wondering, in case of putting up a fight, what will one be fighting for? What a stupid question? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:Alba wrote:What lessons have Kenya residents learned from the Garissa attack?
If Al Shaytan attack another Kenyan Institution or mall or anything else, how should the people under attack react.
Obviously the first option is to hide. But if there is nowhere to hide, my take is that a person should go down fighting. Do not raise your hands or lie down. No surrender. They are going to shoot you anyway. If you are going to go, you may as well go fighting.
Second lesson is no matter what Al Shaytan say, do not trust them. Those Al Shaytan actually tricked female students to leave their dorms stating eti islam does not allow them to kill women. @Alba, I am wondering, in case of putting up a fight, what will one be fighting for? What a stupid question? Is it?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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tycho wrote:Alba wrote:What lessons have Kenya residents learned from the Garissa attack?
If Al Shaytan attack another Kenyan Institution or mall or anything else, how should the people under attack react.
Obviously the first option is to hide. But if there is nowhere to hide, my take is that a person should go down fighting. Do not raise your hands or lie down. No surrender. They are going to shoot you anyway. If you are going to go, you may as well go fighting.
Second lesson is no matter what Al Shaytan say, do not trust them. Those Al Shaytan actually tricked female students to leave their dorms stating eti islam does not allow them to kill women. @Alba, I am wondering, in case of putting up a fight, what will one be fighting for? You are fighting for your life. An Al shaytan is like a wild animal. When you meet a wild animal that wants to kill you, pleading for your life does not help. Rising your hands and surrendering is a waste of time. It just hastens your death. To have any chance of suriving you should run. If running is not an option then you must fight back to save your life. There have been cases where the hijacking for an airplane was foiled by passengers. . Had they not foiled the hijacking they would be dead. Sisi kama wakenya lazima tujitetee.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote:tycho wrote:Alba wrote:What lessons have Kenya residents learned from the Garissa attack?
If Al Shaytan attack another Kenyan Institution or mall or anything else, how should the people under attack react.
Obviously the first option is to hide. But if there is nowhere to hide, my take is that a person should go down fighting. Do not raise your hands or lie down. No surrender. They are going to shoot you anyway. If you are going to go, you may as well go fighting.
Second lesson is no matter what Al Shaytan say, do not trust them. Those Al Shaytan actually tricked female students to leave their dorms stating eti islam does not allow them to kill women. @Alba, I am wondering, in case of putting up a fight, what will one be fighting for? You are fighting for your life. An Al shaytan is like a wild animal. When you meet a wild animal that wants to kill you, pleading for your life does not help. Rising your hands and surrendering is a waste of time. It just hastens your death. To have any chance of suriving you should run. If running is not an option then you must fight back to save your life. There have been cases where the hijacking for an airplane was foiled by passengers. . Had they not foiled the hijacking they would be dead. Sisi kama wakenya lazima tujitetee. Indeed I anticipated the answer you've given. But I have some doubt about the answer. Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ... If I attack one gunman alone because of initiative what are the odds I'll come out alive? What if five, or twenty, or fifty charge together? Is my objective still to come out alive?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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KTN is shedding some light on what transpired! Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Coolio wrote:KTN is shedding some light on what transpired! Very sad If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/13/2015 Posts: 73
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tycho wrote:
Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...
Ati you say the Shahada? And deny the Lord Jesus Christ? The bible says the ones who deny Him, He will also deny infront of all the angels. The Shahada goes like this: La ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasul Allah. There is no god but God and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah. Allah is not Yahweh and needless to say, Mohammed was a murderer, adulterer, rapist, Jew and Christian hater, an all around vile man. However, according to Islam, he was the perfect human being that all should try as best as they can to follow in his footsteps. Do not deny the Christ! Never, never. God help me I will gladly say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. The suffering is for a minute but thereafter a glorious paradise awaits. Revelation 20:4: Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED because of their TESTIMONY OF JESUS and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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tycho wrote:
Indeed I anticipated the answer you've given. But I have some doubt about the answer. Firstly, a warrior seldom fights for his life, and the tactic/strategy you're suggesting may not be effective afterall. If I say the shahada for example ...
If I attack one gunman alone because of initiative what are the odds I'll come out alive? What if five, or twenty, or fifty charge together? Is my objective still to come out alive?
Firstly, this has nothing to do with what a warrior does. If you do not fight you will die with 100% certainty. If you fight you have at least a 10% chance of surviving. Consider that there were only four gunmen against 500 students. If all the students decided to rush at the gunmen at once, more lives would have been saved. If you fight back, you may not save your own life but you may save the lives of others. Do you know that on September 11 2001, the passengers fought back and prevented a third plane from slamming into the world trade center. Kenyans must now have the mentality of fighting back. Its better to die fighting than to just lay down and let them shoot you.
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