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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Democrats have nobody but themselves to blame. Republican base has been consistent in the number of turn-out.  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Hawawezi wachilia hiyo pesa
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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harrydre wrote:Democrats have nobody but themselves to blame. Republican base has been consistent in the number of turn-out. This analysis is worth a thousand words, and should be the lesson from the american election; turn out is what differentiates between a winner and a loser in close elections. Some Democrats thought they had won as per opinion polls and stayed at home,ole wao. ... Turn out is also what we determine 2017 elections winner in Kenya. .and I can repeat that.. Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Michael Moore is a comedian so I never paid attention to his prediction. But of all predictions, his was the most accurate . He predicted exactly how Trump would win and it happened. He literally nailed it. 1. Manufacturing Jobs: Trump promised to slap tarriffs on all foreign built machinery. This explains why he won the industrial rust belt states that Obama previously won: Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa 2. White Anger: Whites think power is slipping out of their hand and they are now fighting back: 2042 is the year when it is predicted the whites will become a minority. They will try to push that to 2062. 3. Hillary is hated: 70% of Americans think Hillary is untrustworthy. You cannot run such a candidate and hope to win. 4. The Bernie Sanders crowd: These are the occupy wall street crowd who should vote democrat but do not trust hillary because of her double speak on these issues 5. People are tired of politicians. They want an outsider. If you never read it. Here http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
The only issue Moore did not mention is the barrage of leaked e-mails that Julian Assange leaked showing Clinton bashing Sanders supporters, getting leakage before debates, bashing Obama etc etc etc. Also the late FBI investigation messed Clinton up. However in four years when everyone realizes Trump will not bring back manufacturing jobs nor ban muslims nor build the wall, reality will set in and Trump will not even bother to run in 2020. Thats assumming he even lasts that long. I have a feeling he will resign when the reality of the job sets in.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Anti_Burglar wrote:quicksand wrote:enyands wrote:masukuma wrote:harrydre wrote:masukuma wrote:This is definitely not the time to discus this. especially not with a republican house. But Even Trump himself had issues with the same system So the country elected Trump but the system elected Trump. Huko hakuna referendum? You see democrats have lost two presidencies just like that. 2/3 congress has to vote. Congress is republican. How easy will it be to repeal obamacre? He could try, with the majorities in the houses. However, he would make bitter, lasting enemies of the twenty-something million Americans covered by the scheme; The move would also deeply annoy Democrats, who are now revving their engines to frustrate future Republican efforts to create legislation to back Trump's policies. More fuel to the fire. Closer home, local politicians used Raila's efforts to relocate people from Mau forest to devastating effect. IMHO, there is no such thing as "outsiders" in politics. Not for long anyway. As long as America is not a straight-up dictatorship and everything has to pushed through 2 houses, Trump is about to get served with filibustering and sabotage of the century ...he will realize that executive decisions a'la "The Apprentice" have no purchase and to get anything done he will have to get his hands dirty glad-handing, diplomacy and smoothing ruffled feathers. And that is local American politics. Akina ISIS, China, Syria, Russia, NATO, EU, Britain, North Korea, Japan and Israel are all concocting curve balls as we speak. Newt Gingrich as Secretary of State?  Get popcorn. Trump is going to have to become a Washington insider in very short order. What a time to be alive! You are realistic and level headed. I too do not expect a too radical shift from the way things have been, the way they are and the way they will be. But of course it will be naive to expect there will be absolutely no differences in the way things are run at leas for the next 4 years. But whatever internal politics - obamacare and whatnot - that goes on over there for us it will be like a rocking chair. It will give us something to do but not get us anywhere. Its the foreign policy that should interest us because that is what will affect us. They might only be able to change pieces of it. http://www.cnn.com/2016/...ns-obamacare/index.html
i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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My friend, this will never happen. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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masukuma wrote:Quote:So whose votes are worth the most? Our 'power' league table offers a state-by-state guide:
1. Wyoming (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 195,369 people
2. Vermont (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 208,680 people
3. DC (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 224,076 people
4. Alaska (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 246,144 people
5. North Dakota (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 252,309 people
6. Rhode Island (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 264,075 people
7. South Dakota (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 286,156 people
8. Delaware (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 315,311 people
9. Maine (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 332,332 people
10. New Hampshire (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 332,652 people
11. Montana (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 344,316 people
12. Hawaii (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 357,901 people
13. West Virginia (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 368,826 people
14. Nebraska (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 379,238 people
15. Idaho (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 413,733 people
16. New Mexico (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 417,022 people
17. Nevada (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 481,808 people
18. Kansas (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 485,274 people
19. Arkansas (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 496,367 people
20. Mississippi (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 498,722 people
21. Utah (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 499,320 people
22. Connecticut (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 512,984 people
23. Iowa (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 520,650 people
24. Alabama (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 539,887 people
25. South Carolina (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 544,016 people
26. Minnesota (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 548959 people
27. Kentucky (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 553,137 people
28. Oklahoma (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 558,763 people
29. Oregon (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 575,568 people
30. Wisconsin (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 577,134 people
31. Louisiana (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 583,841 people
32. Washington (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 597,529 people
33. Tennessee (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 600,027 people
34. Maryland (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 600,640 people
35. Indiana (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 601,789 people
36. Colorado (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 606,286 people
37. Missouri (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 608,367 people
38. Massachusetts (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 617,674 people
39. Michigan (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 620,161 people
40. Arizona (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 630,733 people
41. Georgia (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 638,429 people
42. New Jersey (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 639,858 people
43. Pennsylvania (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 640,125 people
44. Illinois (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 643,000 people
45. Virginia (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 644,846 people
46. Ohio (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 645,190 people
47. North Carolina (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 669,520 people
48. New York (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 682,613 people
49. Florida (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 699,009 people
50. California (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 711,724 people
51. Texas (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 722,871 people He he Yaani a Bernie Sanders from Vermont is worth 3.4 George Bushes from Texas? What a system.it needs to be harmonized. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Trump supporters (below) are so civilized unlike those Democrat goons who are causing trouble everywhere.  
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Trump supporters (below) are so civilized unlike those Democrat goons who are causing trouble everywhere. How 'bout the 2nd amendment guys of Trump? What were they threatening if Trump were to lose?  And Trump in 2012? What was he threatening? By the way, he deleted those tweets just a couple of days ago but the internet never forgets.  Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/3/2015 Posts: 126 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:masukuma wrote:Quote:So whose votes are worth the most? Our 'power' league table offers a state-by-state guide:
1. Wyoming (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 195,369 people
2. Vermont (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 208,680 people
3. DC (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 224,076 people
4. Alaska (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 246,144 people
5. North Dakota (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 252,309 people
6. Rhode Island (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 264,075 people
7. South Dakota (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 286,156 people
8. Delaware (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 315,311 people
9. Maine (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 332,332 people
10. New Hampshire (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 332,652 people
11. Montana (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 344,316 people
12. Hawaii (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 357,901 people
13. West Virginia (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 368,826 people
14. Nebraska (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 379,238 people
15. Idaho (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 413,733 people
16. New Mexico (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 417,022 people
17. Nevada (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 481,808 people
18. Kansas (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 485,274 people
19. Arkansas (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 496,367 people
20. Mississippi (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 498,722 people
21. Utah (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 499,320 people
22. Connecticut (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 512,984 people
23. Iowa (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 520,650 people
24. Alabama (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 539,887 people
25. South Carolina (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 544,016 people
26. Minnesota (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 548959 people
27. Kentucky (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 553,137 people
28. Oklahoma (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 558,763 people
29. Oregon (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 575,568 people
30. Wisconsin (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 577,134 people
31. Louisiana (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 583,841 people
32. Washington (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 597,529 people
33. Tennessee (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 600,027 people
34. Maryland (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 600,640 people
35. Indiana (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 601,789 people
36. Colorado (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 606,286 people
37. Missouri (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 608,367 people
38. Massachusetts (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 617,674 people
39. Michigan (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 620,161 people
40. Arizona (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 630,733 people
41. Georgia (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 638,429 people
42. New Jersey (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 639,858 people
43. Pennsylvania (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 640,125 people
44. Illinois (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 643,000 people
45. Virginia (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 644,846 people
46. Ohio (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 645,190 people
47. North Carolina (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 669,520 people
48. New York (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 682,613 people
49. Florida (Swing) - One Electoral College vote per 699,009 people
50. California (Dem) - One Electoral College vote per 711,724 people
51. Texas (Rep) - One Electoral College vote per 722,871 people He he Yaani a Bernie Sanders from Vermont is worth 3.4 George Bushes from Texas? What a system.it needs to be harmonized. Ngai!! Even without considering who won which state...this system is so so unfair..... This is the hallmark of a rigged system. How can 722,871 people have the same say with 195,369 people. No wonder there is such a low voter turnout in the USA. What would you feel if you became aware that the vote of 3.7 people in your state is equal to one persons vote in another state?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Honestly what does this guy really stand for?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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Shak wrote:Honestly what does this guy really stand for? Reality check!!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:Shak wrote:Honestly what does this guy really stand for? Reality check!!!!! It's building bridges with the demon-crats. He has to be the president for all. FYI click the link on my signature for Trump's policies and what he stands for. He's best for America and the world.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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Amores wrote:It would NOT come as a surprise to me at all if Trump won this election. There is real dissatisfaction with the way stuff is run in Washington and people are struggling. Delivering fine speeches ( Obama,Michelle,E. Warren,celebrities etc) might not be enough to show people that indeed the government will work for everyone.
I don't know what is better,Trump ( rough,racists GoP outsider) who tells them as it is or Hillary( untrusted( because of the way she has handled stuff),polished flip-flopper who has private( for the elite) and public( for the voters) positions on real issues.
Remember the Brexit shock?  I kinda felt it. And it seems the dynamic duo will meet the righteous verdict of Kenyan people come next year... the drums are beating. @ hardwood,do you live in USA by any chance? Can somepne tell the CORD USA branch(s) to get their people off the streets? Thank you. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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Amores wrote:Amores wrote:It would NOT come as a surprise to me at all if Trump won this election. There is real dissatisfaction with the way stuff is run in Washington and people are struggling. Delivering fine speeches ( Obama,Michelle,E. Warren,celebrities etc) might not be enough to show people that indeed the government will work for everyone.
I don't know what is better,Trump ( rough,racists GoP outsider) who tells them as it is or Hillary( untrusted( because of the way she has handled stuff),polished flip-flopper who has private( for the elite) and public( for the voters) positions on real issues.
Remember the Brexit shock? I kinda felt it. And it seems the dynamic duo will meet the righteous verdict of Kenyan people come next year... the drums are beating. @ hardwood,do you live in USA by any chance? Can somepne tell the CORD USA branch(s) to get their people off the streets? Thank you. It was Trupamba, now CORD USA branch In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Amores wrote:Amores wrote:It would NOT come as a surprise to me at all if Trump won this election. There is real dissatisfaction with the way stuff is run in Washington and people are struggling. Delivering fine speeches ( Obama,Michelle,E. Warren,celebrities etc) might not be enough to show people that indeed the government will work for everyone.
I don't know what is better,Trump ( rough,racists GoP outsider) who tells them as it is or Hillary( untrusted( because of the way she has handled stuff),polished flip-flopper who has private( for the elite) and public( for the voters) positions on real issues.
Remember the Brexit shock? I kinda felt it. And it seems the dynamic duo will meet the righteous verdict of Kenyan people come next year... the drums are beating. @ hardwood,do you live in USA by any chance? Can somepne tell the CORD USA branch(s) to get their people off the streets? Thank you. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Reality will soon set in for rethugs who think Obamacare can be repealed. There are 20 million people dependent on it. Also reality will soon set in for the old economy types who think Trump will bring back well paying manufacturing jobs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Alba wrote:Reality will soon set in for rethugs who think Obamacare can be repealed. There are 20 million people dependent on it. Also reality will soon set in for the old economy types who think Trump will bring back well paying manufacturing jobs. Is there a coal miner seriously thinking he will get his job back? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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