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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
mnandii
#611 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:10:22 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
I know you said "may" but it is looking ever so unlikely. The macro economy doesn't point to a bounce. Looking at the chart you posted we are in a wave iii, unless I'm not seeing something.

Do your chats show you otherwise?

mnandii wrote:
Relax!

Don't panic.

A strong bounce in the NSE 20 Share Index may yet be on the cards!



Am posting soon.

If you look at the sentence I have underlined, do you know the reason you have said that? smile

If you read The Wave Principle of Human Social Behaviour you'll find out the why.



It is called linear thinking. And don't worry. smile Majority of people practice it.

Basically you contend that the market will continue falling because it has been falling. Read that sloowwlly. And it means you are predicting the past.



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snipermnoma
#612 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:01:36 PM
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mnandii wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
I know you said "may" but it is looking ever so unlikely. The macro economy doesn't point to a bounce. Looking at the chart you posted we are in a wave iii, unless I'm not seeing something.

Do your chats show you otherwise?

mnandii wrote:
Relax!

Don't panic.

A strong bounce in the NSE 20 Share Index may yet be on the cards!



Am posting soon.

If you look at the sentence I have underlined, do you know the reason you have said that? smile

If you read The Wave Principle of Human Social Behaviour you'll find out the why.



It is called linear thinking. And don't worry. smile Majority of people practice it.

Basically you contend that the market will continue falling because it has been falling. Read that sloowwlly. And it means you are predicting the past.





Thanks, I'm open to learning so I will look for the book. If you are right and a bounce is on the way then being in the majority sucks! smile
hisah
#613 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:40:38 PM
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NSE20 aiming for the 4000pts zone.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#614 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:46:37 PM
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hisah wrote:


NSE20 aiming for the 4000pts zone.

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mnandii
#615 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 1:15:29 AM
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Here is the analysis.

I have looked at the NSE 20 share Index Chart several times and as yet I don't see any responsible way to label the fall from March '2015 high of 5499.64 as a continuing C wave.

My reasons are as outlined below.



I posted a similar chart this year. The labels are maintained except that in the case I am outlining now, black wave (B) is not complete. Instead, the rise from the Nov. 2011 low of 3103.04 (here labelled as green wave X) upto the Mar.'15 high of 5499.64 is labelled as an impulse wave [a] (in blue colour). The pattern is clearer in a chart from www.investing.com which I'll use to analyse the short term.

From the outset, I believe that a large Elliott Wave flat pattern is forming in the NSE 20 Index ever since the all-time top at 6161.46.

A flat consists of waves A, B and C where wave A is a three (i.e a corrective pattern), Wave B is a three and Wave C is a motive wave (a diagonal or an impulse wave, or simply a five-wave pattern). In our case here, black wave (A) of the flat consists of a zigzag (i.e green waves A, B and C). Black Wave (B) is the formation currently underway and should eventually consist of green waves W, X and Y.

W, X and Y are compound waves consisting of simpler corrective patterns (In Elliott Wave Literature the simple corrective patterns are ZigZags (5-3-5), Flats (3-3-5) and Triangles (3-3-3-3-3).

Now, there are rules pertaining to the formation of flats. Rules must never be broken. The guiding rule in this case is that in a flat, the B wave is always at least 90% of the A wave.

Now, if I assume that black wave (B) ended at 5499.64 in Mar.'15 then how much will it have retraced wave (A)?

Black wave (A) = {6161.46 - 2360.01} = 3801.45

If black wave (B) ended at 5499.64 then

Black wave (B) = {5499.64 - 2360.01} = 3139.63

3139.63 /3801.45 = 82.59%

i.e black wave (B) will be 82.59% of wave (A) and therefore less than the required 90%.

This therefore suggests that we should expect the NSE 20 Share Index to rise at least above 5499.64 level before calling the end of wave (B). And this is why I have hinted in the past that the Index should rise soon.

And there are targets to aim for as outlined below:

Target 1:

In a flat correction, the B wave is usually a Fibonacci 1.236 times the A wave.

Black wave (A) = {6161.46 - 2360.01} = 3801.45

Wave (A) X Fib. 1.236 = Wave (B) = {1.236 X 3801.45} = 4698.59

Adding 4698.59 to wave (A) low in order to target the end of wave (B):

4698.59 + 2360.01 = 7058.60

A mind-boggling target now. smile

Also, the B wave of a flat should not exceed Fib. 1.382 times the A wave, thus:

1.382 X 3801.45 = 5253.60

Adding this to wave (A) low gives

5253.60 + 2360.01 = 7613.61

We should not expect the rise to exceed 7613.61.

Target 2:

Another way to target the end of the black wave (B) is to consider the relation between waves W and Y. We look for a Fib. 0.618, equality, Fib. 1.618, double wave W or a Fib. 2.618.

Green wave W = {4678.1 - 2360.01} = 2318.09

If wave Y should equal Wave W then:

2318.09 + 3103.04 = 5421.13 In this case 5499, a level beyond 5421, was hit.

We however, expect a much farther wave Y, the next level should be a Fib. 1.618 X wave W:

So 1.618 X 2318.09 = 3750.67

Therefore,

3750.67 + 3103.04 = 6853.71

Summary:

Elliott suggests as per our discussion above that the current fall in the NSE 20 Share Index is temporary. My expectation is for the NSE 20 Share Index to do a spectacular rise above 5499 in the coming weeks.







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mnandii
#616 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 1:22:33 AM
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I'll post on the shorter term later today.
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enyands
#617 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 7:56:01 AM
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mnandii wrote:
I'll post on the shorter term later today.

It boils down to what are the best pick for shares that are down the wave A B or C that will rise exponentially when there is a correction after this temporal situation has corrected itself ,just a general question .

Pesanane hinted britam , KCB and some others .what are yours @mnadii
mnandii
#618 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:26:37 PM
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Continuing from post 615 above.



This chart is similar to the long term one in post 615 but it is from www.investing.com. My aim here is to show the sub-divisions within blue wave [a]. The fall from 5499.64 is therefore blue wave ...[..b] and is analysed below.



This is the best interpretation I have for the fall from 5499.64 high and part of the reason I am skeptical that the fall is a full-blown bear. The pattern is distinctly a zigzag pattern (5-3-5).

Now, while it is possible that the move (5499.64 to 4404.72), our zigzag, may be the first leg of a leading diagonal (3-3-3-3-3), the sharpness of the fall signifies otherwise. I am therefore convinced the fall is a zigzag wave ..[..b] and should eventually be fully retraced. Please note that zigzags can be single, double or triple.

The beauty with Elliott is that it is evidence-based. Thus, if price patterns would suggest a different scenario other than the rise to the 7000 mark be assured that I will be the first to jump onto that count. Sad For now though I will be looking for a small 5 wave move to slightly above 4906.07 to satisfy that this bullish scenario is indeed the case.

A little math:

Red wave (a) = {5499.64 - 4404.72} = 1094.92

We expect a Fibonacci relation between waves (a) and (c) of the zigzag.

1). If wave (c) is 0.618 X Wave (a) then our target for wave (c) becomes:

0.618 X 1094.92 = 676.66

Subtracting 676.66 from wave (b) high gives:

4906.07 - 676.66 = 4229.41 NB: This has been surpassed.

2). If wave (c) equals wave (a) then:

4906.07 - 1094.92 = 3811.15 NB: Quite likely.

3)If wave (c) is the next Fibonacci target of 1.618 X Wave (a) then:

1.618 X 1094.92 = 1771.58

The target in this case becomes:

4906.07 - 1771.58 = 3134.49 NB: Quite unlikely.

Summary:

I expect NSE 20 share Index to fall to about 3811 points then start a strong move up toward 4907s level.

Nice trading.

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mnandii
#619 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:34:46 PM
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enyands wrote:
mnandii wrote:
I'll post on the shorter term later today.

It boils down to what are the best pick for shares that are down the wave A B or C that will rise exponentially when there is a correction after this temporal situation has corrected itself ,just a general question .

Pesanane hinted britam , KCB and some others .what are yours @mnadii


The NSE 20 Share Index is an index of about 20 stocks. Individual stocks may perform better or worse than the NSE. To trade a stock I would want to analyse its Elliott Wave pattern which I don't do presently. I was really looking forward to the market for derivatives but as always the powers that be are all talk and little action. The derivatives market would be nice to play because of the instantaneous settlement.
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mnandii
#620 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:40:46 PM
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