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tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. Do you believe there is under reporting? In this era of Social Media,you cannot hide too much.The sick and dying are our relatives and we shall broadcast it far and wide. Ofcourse different from Robert Alai unsubstantiated claims of 2 Europeans dead at Mombasa Port,or Chinese being evacuated in Lamu. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. I am telling you what needs to happen. Find my first post on this thread. You shall see I said. Test and isolate. If you are not being tested, that's not my fault. Expect what's going to happen next with absolute certainty. Let me quote Itumbi, "systems ya facts" Nothing else works. But if you find another witchdoctor treatment like Trump, tell me about it. If the gov't isn't doing that, well, I didn't vote for them. If I succumb to it, I'll do so knowing I said the truth. No biggie, Mukiri will support me in heaven. Nothing else is working. Lockdown, test and isolate. You'll scare people for nothing when you say that the only thing that is working is a fantasy. You have no proof that fantasies are not true. Just a word. I am retelling a story that is being written even as we speak. Lockdown, test, isolate. If that's a fantasy, then expect what is coming. We can determine what will come. It only takes willpower and intelligence. We can take the next best step and mitigate a crisis. Let's concentrate on what we have at hand. @Lolest, raising funds and using them with reserve and keen strategy is important. While we mull over and raise funds, we may need an operations doctrine and synch it with govt efforts. I volunteer for such a task if needed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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tycho wrote:alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. I am telling you what needs to happen. Find my first post on this thread. You shall see I said. Test and isolate. If you are not being tested, that's not my fault. Expect what's going to happen next with absolute certainty. Let me quote Itumbi, "systems ya facts" Nothing else works. But if you find another witchdoctor treatment like Trump, tell me about it. If the gov't isn't doing that, well, I didn't vote for them. If I succumb to it, I'll do so knowing I said the truth. No biggie, Mukiri will support me in heaven. Nothing else is working. Lockdown, test and isolate. You'll scare people for nothing when you say that the only thing that is working is a fantasy. You have no proof that fantasies are not true. Just a word. I am retelling a story that is being written even as we speak. Lockdown, test, isolate. If that's a fantasy, then expect what is coming. We can determine what will come. It only takes willpower and intelligence. We can take the next best step and mitigate a crisis. Let's concentrate on what we have at hand. @Lolest, raising funds and using them with reserve and keen strategy is important. While we mull over and raise funds, we may need an operations doctrine and synch it with govt efforts. I volunteer for such a task if needed. Tycho, my fren I'd like you to take a step back for a second. Think of this scenario. You were born poor, you have an idea. You can't borrow from your family, they are all poor. In fact, people are telling you, it is "impractical, impossible". In fact, look at our history, no one can ever make it. Yet, you know that the only way you are going to survive is by following that stupid idea. Do you give up and agree or work to make it happen? That's the difference between human beings. Everyone has a challenge. Some agree, others don't. You know you have to climb that mountain and you climb it. Just climb Mr. Kilimanjaro one day. This is a virus. To kill it, we have to stay apart. There's no other way. It's up to us to stand up and be counted. Not complaining about our personal issues. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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alma1 wrote:That guy was talking like aemathenge is right now just 3 weeks ago.
There's no shortcut here. Test, isolate.
Any other method is not working. Those are the facts.
There you go again. Irritatingly Condescending. But for argument's sake Lets do it your way. Testing in Mwea would require Public Medical Personnel. Her Excellency, with her spat with the Kirinyaga County Personnel, including her former County Executive, has ensured this would be a tall order. Testing kits: Even if these were available, the logistics again would rest on a handicapped Public Medical Personnel network. Isolation: Desperate times call for desperate measures. Enlist the services of the Boda Boda Cartel Networks peppered with a few Police Officers. With a few coins in their pockets, those Boys will give you a lockdown that would impress your beloved Chinese Autocrats. Question is is the Government willing to "work" with the Boys having in mind how the "Mungiki issue" turned out? Enlighten me but do not hide behind a cloak of superiority complex.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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wukan wrote:Italy death toll 919 in a day.
US has much steeper curve than Italy. April-May you will need alcohol to follow the updates.
CNN reports 969 dont know where they are getting the 50 more For US, If they make the equipment needed then they will get off this as victors. It is said that in a normal situation, a patient uses the respirator for 3-4 days, but for COVID19 its taking 11 to 15 days for a patient to get off. That's where the problem is "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:Lastly as much as you can tell people not to support this gov't remember that those guys in Mukuru depend on those midro crass people you keep on bringing about.
Small businesses in Kenya hire those mukuru people as you call them.
I can assure you, for 3 weeks, no one is paying invoices, no one is signing a contract, no one is even imagining getting a new project going.
Which means, people are going to be fired, have already been fired and are being fired.
The midro crass as you call them can't afford to pay rent or mortgages. For both their offices and even where their families live.
It is sexy to support the so called poor, but the economic truth in Kenya is that it survives with those subaru guys you don't seem to entertain as being human.
The subaru guys are telling you, forgo your "me, me" attitude for a moment.
Stay home. So we can all clear this hurdle faster.
But if you think that life will be great for you after, think again.
Small businesses support this economy, some nduthi guys are suggesting that life is all about them and corona is a rich man's disease.
That's not true.
Mkae nyumbani tafadhali. So far, I have no reason for civil disobedience. I am only calling out for consideration of a scenario that we are both in agreement about. There are very few tests happening, and a lockdown is tricky. The government has indicated willingness to support an offensive strategy and I say we take it. I have a problem when the middle-class (presuming you are a member) begins attacking the poor without warrant, like you did in your earlier posts. The poor and the rich depend on each other, and ought to help each other. I have lived long enough to know that the difference between the classes is a superficial one. If we say 'lockdown' then let's meet the challenge together. Share where necessary. If it's about testing, maybe we can improvise if we can think together. We can follow your recommendations if we can work together and intelligently. And that's the thrust of my argument.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. I am telling you what needs to happen. Find my first post on this thread. You shall see I said. Test and isolate. If you are not being tested, that's not my fault. Expect what's going to happen next with absolute certainty. Let me quote Itumbi, "systems ya facts" Nothing else works. But if you find another witchdoctor treatment like Trump, tell me about it. If the gov't isn't doing that, well, I didn't vote for them. If I succumb to it, I'll do so knowing I said the truth. No biggie, Mukiri will support me in heaven. Nothing else is working. Lockdown, test and isolate. You'll scare people for nothing when you say that the only thing that is working is a fantasy. You have no proof that fantasies are not true. Just a word. I am retelling a story that is being written even as we speak. Lockdown, test, isolate. If that's a fantasy, then expect what is coming. We can determine what will come. It only takes willpower and intelligence. We can take the next best step and mitigate a crisis. Let's concentrate on what we have at hand. @Lolest, raising funds and using them with reserve and keen strategy is important. While we mull over and raise funds, we may need an operations doctrine and synch it with govt efforts. I volunteer for such a task if needed. Tycho, my fren I'd like you to take a step back for a second. Think of this scenario. You were born poor, you have an idea. You can't borrow from your family, they are all poor. In fact, people are telling you, it is "impractical, impossible". In fact, look at our history, no one can ever make it. Yet, you know that the only way you are going to survive is by following that stupid idea. Do you give up and agree or work to make it happen? That's the difference between human beings. Everyone has a challenge. Some agree, others don't. You know you have to climb that mountain and you climb it. Just climb Mr. Kilimanjaro one day. This is a virus. To kill it, we have to stay apart. There's no other way. It's up to us to stand up and be counted. Not complaining about our personal issues. I will work to make the idea happen. I can tell you my entire life has been about making the impossible to happen. And normally, things happen when I swing to action.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Bigchick wrote:tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. Do you believe there is under reporting? In this era of Social Media,you cannot hide too much.The sick and dying are our relatives and we shall broadcast it far and wide. Ofcourse different from Robert Alai unsubstantiated claims of 2 Europeans dead at Mombasa Port,or Chinese being evacuated in Lamu. If testing kits are strained, then it is likely that cases will be underreported. A friend from the Netherlands just informed me of how tests are rare there. He claims to know of people who wished to have the tests but couldn't access them. There are links claiming that for every 1 reported case there was a probability of 5 or more unreported cases in Wuhan. Sembuse Kenya?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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tycho wrote:Bigchick wrote:tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. Do you believe there is under reporting? In this era of Social Media,you cannot hide too much.The sick and dying are our relatives and we shall broadcast it far and wide. Ofcourse different from Robert Alai unsubstantiated claims of 2 Europeans dead at Mombasa Port,or Chinese being evacuated in Lamu. If testing kits are strained, then it is likely that cases will be underreported. A friend from the Netherlands just informed me of how tests are rare there. He claims to know of people who wished to have the tests but couldn't access them. There are links claiming that for every 1 reported case there was a probability of 5 or more unreported cases in Wuhan. Sembuse Kenya? Tested or not,are we having many cases of sick people(respiratory) out there.Is or possible for a large number of citizens to hide this? Are we having too many unexplained deaths since Jan to now?Is it possible to hide this? If we get it and heal without being tested and added to the statistics,the better us. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Bigchick wrote:tycho wrote:Bigchick wrote:tycho wrote:Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage. Do you believe there is under reporting? In this era of Social Media,you cannot hide too much.The sick and dying are our relatives and we shall broadcast it far and wide. Ofcourse different from Robert Alai unsubstantiated claims of 2 Europeans dead at Mombasa Port,or Chinese being evacuated in Lamu. If testing kits are strained, then it is likely that cases will be underreported. A friend from the Netherlands just informed me of how tests are rare there. He claims to know of people who wished to have the tests but couldn't access them. There are links claiming that for every 1 reported case there was a probability of 5 or more unreported cases in Wuhan. Sembuse Kenya? Tested or not,are we having many cases of sick people(respiratory) out there.Is or possible for a large number of citizens to hide this? Are we having too many unexplained deaths since Jan to now?Is it possible to hide this? If we get it and heal without being tested and added to the statistics,the better us. https://www.japantimes.c...cond-wave/#.Xn5SU5BRUSw
It is possible that cases are only beginning in Kenya and the underreporting is only in its early stages.
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