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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,065 Location: Nairobi
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ProverB wrote:KQ direct Flights to New Delhi suspended w.e.f 24th November. Why?.. End year they will blame it on travel advisories and ebola? India?
Add to that 70% discount on shipping general cargo to Mumbai and Guangzhou till March 2015. The belly is probably empty from Kenya/Africa to India/China. We are net importers of everything under the sun. And Ebola travels in the cabin not cargo-hold. It's better for KQ to fill the belly at a 70% discount [as long as they return full] rather than fly empty... It also shuts out the mid-east carriers. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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@NationFMKe: Wanjiku Mugane, Caroline Armstrong-Ogwapit elected by @KenyaAirways shareholders to the Board.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ProverB wrote:KQ direct Flights to New Delhi suspended w.e.f 24th November. Why?.. End year they will blame it on travel advisories and ebola? India?
Add to that 70% discount on shipping general cargo to Mumbai and Guangzhou till March 2015. I got the info on Friday check the post above...people who are waiting for new routes to be opened mnaota the company has no money to participate in such a move...They spent 12m on the farewell parties for TN...2 farewell parties for.the bugger misplaced priorities.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Del possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Gordon Gekko wrote:@NationFMKe: Wanjiku Mugane, Caroline Armstrong-Ogwapit elected by @KenyaAirways shareholders to the Board. Not bad especially Ogwapit, wanjiku was 50/50 lets see. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,477 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:ProverB wrote:KQ direct Flights to New Delhi suspended w.e.f 24th November. Why?.. End year they will blame it on travel advisories and ebola? India?
Add to that 70% discount on shipping general cargo to Mumbai and Guangzhou till March 2015. I got the info on Friday check the post above...people who are waiting for new routes to be opened mnaota the company has no money to participate in such a move...They spent 12m on the farewell parties for TN...2 farewell parties for.the bugger misplaced priorities.... Weka link.. Hii inaskika kama porojo. Even with the weed at KQ, I doubt they cld have spent 12milli of shareholder funds for Naikunis party HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:ProverB wrote:KQ direct Flights to New Delhi suspended w.e.f 24th November. Why?.. End year they will blame it on travel advisories and ebola? India?
Add to that 70% discount on shipping general cargo to Mumbai and Guangzhou till March 2015. I got the info on Friday check the post above...people who are waiting for new routes to be opened mnaota the company has no money to participate in such a move...They spent 12m on the farewell parties for TN...2 farewell parties for.the bugger misplaced priorities.... Weka link.. Hii inaskika kama porojo. Even with the weed at KQ, I doubt they cld have spent 12milli of shareholder funds for Naikunis party They did ask your sources...he was given a cow worth 480,000 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,477 Location: nairobi
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12 million is equal to 480K?? @makaa HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,647 Location: NAIROBI
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Ethiopian airlines signs a deal with sudan to form a national airline. Ethiopian airlines to hold a 49% stake while south sudan government will hold a 51% stake. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:ProverB wrote:KQ direct Flights to New Delhi suspended w.e.f 24th November. Why?.. End year they will blame it on travel advisories and ebola? India?
Add to that 70% discount on shipping general cargo to Mumbai and Guangzhou till March 2015. I got the info on Friday check the post above...people who are waiting for new routes to be opened mnaota the company has no money to participate in such a move...They spent 12m on the farewell parties for TN...2 farewell parties for.the bugger misplaced priorities.... Weka link.. Hii inaskika kama porojo. Even with the weed at KQ, I doubt they cld have spent 12milli of shareholder funds for Naikunis party They did ask your sources...he was given a cow worth 480,000 Are we talking about a real cow?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:12 million is equal to 480K?? @makaa Boss it was 12 million one at the coast and the other at carni...@whiteowl yes a real cow... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/28/2009 Posts: 290
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whiteowl wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:ProverB wrote:KQ direct Flights to New Delhi suspended w.e.f 24th November. Why?.. End year they will blame it on travel advisories and ebola? India?
Add to that 70% discount on shipping general cargo to Mumbai and Guangzhou till March 2015. I got the info on Friday check the post above...people who are waiting for new routes to be opened mnaota the company has no money to participate in such a move...They spent 12m on the farewell parties for TN...2 farewell parties for.the bugger misplaced priorities.... Weka link.. Hii inaskika kama porojo. Even with the weed at KQ, I doubt they cld have spent 12milli of shareholder funds for Naikunis party They did ask your sources...he was given a cow worth 480,000 Are we talking about a real cow? Would also ask the same question since IEBC also ate chicken,and chicken is way smaller than a cow.. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:12 million is equal to 480K?? @makaa Boss it was 12 million one at the coast and the other at carni...@whiteowl yes a real cow... Now I see another reason brookside has a high valuation besides their market share.Could be where 480,000/= cows are breed.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/3/2010 Posts: 79
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Airline stocks flying high as crude-oil prices sink http://www.msn.com/en-us.../ar-BBg64MS?ocid=HPCDHP
hopefully this will reduce KQ's overhead cost and post good numbers next quarter. Knowledge is contagious...Infect truth!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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In one post @Hisah talked about hedging and he said... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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maka wrote:In one post @Hisah talked about hedging and he said... If those hedges were set $90 oil, KQ is sitting in deep red losses! Only when oil price is above that level does it translate to gains for them. I'm not sure if the hedging contracts are still in place. @vvs @obiero are these contracts still live?
KK did well to abandon them after that spectacular hedging loss. Derivatives are not wanjikus child play. Many financial firms are known to play against their clients in these derivative deals!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,065 Location: Nairobi
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hisah wrote:maka wrote:In one post @Hisah talked about hedging and he said... If those hedges were set $90 oil, KQ is sitting in deep red losses! Only when oil price is above that level does it translate to gains for them. I'm not sure if the hedging contracts are still in place. @vvs @obiero are these contracts still live?
KK did well to abandon them after that spectacular hedging loss. Derivatives are not wanjikus child play. Many financial firms are known to play against their clients in these derivative deals!
The CFO of KQ boasted that (overall) KQ has made money from hedges... Why don't I believe him? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,477 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:hisah wrote:maka wrote:In one post @Hisah talked about hedging and he said... If those hedges were set $90 oil, KQ is sitting in deep red losses! Only when oil price is above that level does it translate to gains for them. I'm not sure if the hedging contracts are still in place. @vvs @obiero are these contracts still live?
KK did well to abandon them after that spectacular hedging loss. Derivatives are not wanjikus child play. Many financial firms are known to play against their clients in these derivative deals!
The CFO of KQ boasted that (overall) KQ has made money from hedges... Why don't I believe him? Just a few weeks ago, I discouraged the firm from hedging and Ngunze appeared to concur.. Dint go back to my guy in accounts to find out if he cut back on any further positions that had been planned for hedging.. But seriously Naikuni wasnt a real manager HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/2/2014 Posts: 123
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of course kq management know how to lose money. they most probably hedged at $99, or are going to do that starting tomorrow ,
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,065 Location: Nairobi
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ike wrote:of course kq management know how to lose money. they most probably hedged at $99, or are going to do that starting tomorrow This would not surprise me! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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