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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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alma1 wrote:So now the true story about what happened in these "negotiations" begins to emerge
really shameful stuff. So what happened?Tell us... Who brought shame upon the house? Atwoli told us about Muraguri and Mailu.You what have you heard? Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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alma1 wrote:So now the true story about what happened in these "negotiations" begins to emerge
really shameful stuff. No one has stopped you from paying your doctors at your county 1m. You can go ahead and pay. After all health is devolved. Your money, your choice.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Its that time again to ask, have Kenyans suffered enough to be Kenyans?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Conflicting info on whether or not resumption of duty has happened since the riot act was read on TuesdayQuote:But a spot check at the hospitals revealed that most doctors are not back at work, and the doctors union has said the strike is still on.
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However, a statement posted on the Ministry of Health official website indicated that doctors heeded the government’s order to resume work so that negotiations could resume.
“Striking doctors have heeded the government’s call to resume work after the government stopped further negotiation with their union. A spot check of major county public health facilities reveals that doctors have started streaming back to hospitals across the country to resume duty,”
Then this morning State house statement issued - today Sunday 12th March 2017 – threatening Doctors with the sack !Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Spin doctors (pun intended) need to earn their keep, don't they? I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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Doctors: Who said we’ve called off our strike? the struggle continues Court of Appeal: We are giving the parties a final chance. We shall mention the matter tomorrow at 10am...If not resolved this court will refer the matter to the labor court 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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muganda wrote:Doctors: Who said we’ve called off our strike? the struggle continues Court of Appeal: We are giving the parties a final chance. We shall mention the matter tomorrow at 10am...If not resolved this court will refer the matter to the labor court same labour court that jailed the doctors for contempt. the doctors should open their eyes.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Anti_Burglar wrote:I foresee a situation where if other health professionals like nurses and COs raise a demand next, they will be treated well and given what they want without much fuss. All to rub in for the KMPDU. Of course they will have learnt from KMPDU approach how not to do things. It may happen, it may not, I do not know. I just love being right! Lecturers call off strike, sign pay dealUasu secretary general Dr. Constantine Wasonga said that Uasu unity and solidarity of union members was of great value to the process of negotiating with the government saying it is an excellent example to other unions.Meanwhile KMPDU Secretary General Dr. Ouma Oluga is still changing documents and shifting positions Medics remove private practice clause.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Anti_Burglar wrote:The allegations of x number of doctors serving 10,000 number of Kenyans though often quoted with genuine concern but is very misguided. It doesn't help that doctors themselves repeat it often. It should be x number of medical health workers serving 10,000 Kenyans. That is according to the Kenya Health Sector Strategic Plan JULY 2013-JUNE 2017. But it is good he crystalises a main issue as "job group". Anyway, the different levels of health care delivery in the Kenya Essential Package for Health is as follows: 6 Tertiary hospitals
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3 Health centres, maternities, nursing homes
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2 Dispensaries/clinics
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1 Community: Villages/Households/Families/Individuals Doctors start appearing in that hierarchy at around level 4. The staff at the community health workers level, dispensaries, clinics, health centers do the donkey work within the community. They include enrolled nurses, nurses, clinical officers and such. What they cannot handle is what they refer up the chain. And that is how it should be. There is no point going to say KNH to get diagnosis for Malaria when it can be done at the health center. So what is ailing the health sectors in Kenya? What can be done? For starters, lumping money at the top of the chain in salaries and what not is absolutely not the way to go. Man! Even Dr Githinji Gitahi, Group CEO of Amref Health Africa agrees with me. Not all doctors are of the same level level as some of them of KMPDU. Many are at a higher level. At the just concluded Africa Health Africa International Conference, Dr Gitahi noted that: “a survey by a local research firm found out that only 30 per cent of Kenyans knew of the doctors’ strike two months into the strike.”
These findings draw attention to the fact that most health needs are not met by doctors, but by middle-level heath workers and community health workers.Hence, investment should go to the myriad mid-level health workers down there, not a few specialists up there! I cannot help but remember a certain graphic I was being fed that we will experience world class health care if only KMPDU CBA was implemented. Sad.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:I foresee a situation where if other health professionals like nurses and COs raise a demand next, they will be treated well and given what they want without much fuss. All to rub in for the KMPDU. Of course they will have learnt from KMPDU approach how not to do things. It may happen, it may not, I do not know. I just love being right! Lecturers call off strike, sign pay dealUasu secretary general Dr. Constantine Wasonga said that Uasu unity and solidarity of union members was of great value to the process of negotiating with the government saying it is an excellent example to other unions.Meanwhile KMPDU Secretary General Dr. Ouma Oluga is still changing documents and shifting positions Medics remove private practice clause. Leo naona you are on a roll 😂😂😂😂 Let's see how today goes. Meanwhile, negotiations are just that. You try to get the best deal for those you represent. So KMPDU removed the conflict of interest wording (wrong-headed imho), but the MOH and the governors can insist on it and put it back, it's all part of the negotiation...
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