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Women,Submit to your husbands..Period!!
caesar
#51 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 1:42:00 PM
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22Slaves,obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it,not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor,but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

The uniqueness of this time is that Slavely has come to an end. The opening of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776,states as follows





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We hold these truths to be self-evident,that all men are created equal,that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,that among these are Life,Liberty,and the Pursuit of Happiness.





Women too are created equal. Just let your woman be
masukuma
#52 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 1:59:00 PM
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submission vs obedience

obedience is for children,
submission is for wives
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
SonOfGod
#53 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:37:00 AM
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@mukiha

I like your arguement. Indeed it wu\ould help to know that In marriage it is not about who wins but rather both parties do their best whether or not they are appreciated.

All in all our relationship with our maker is the real long term investment
Kasheshi
#54 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:21:00 PM
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I think submission is simply where the man develops the vision for the family and the wife helps or provides support in its actualization. If the wife deviates from it then she is not submitting as she should. Other issues on who does what chores in the house or who controls the finances are not cast in stone and are purely dependent on couples preferences

R
m water
#55 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:10:00 PM
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italian saying ' if the bed is good the marriage is good '


tuweke amani for all the people
xtina
#56 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2009 9:25:00 AM
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@ Lyanne
had a relative who owned who two books: the Happy Valley and White Mischief,but they were burned during the PEV,can you believe that?
Happy Valley is almost impossible to find,but look around for White Mischief,it more-or-less recounts the going-ons of the former.

Men who are occupied in the restoration of health to other men,by the joint exertion of skill and humanity,are above all the great of the earth. They even partake of divinity,since to preserve and renew is almost as noble as to create.VOLTAIRE.
Djinn
#57 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2009 9:36:00 AM
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I think there should be a degree of submission,but not such that the wife becomes subservient,rather,plays her part while the man plays his part - this,irrespective of education,money,etc. Just like the game of rock,paper and scissors,at any given point,one comes out on top. Men are USELESS with shopping lists and such while WOMEN can't park cars smile Still men can fix small electrical issues and women will get the best deals in fresh food....so,it has to be symbiotic - no host and parasite....no master and slave....that also reminds me about the arguement the body parts where having and it turns out the most filthy body organ had a point to make....

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
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